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We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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> how you can blame Uber for making society worse There's a long, long, long list of reasons Uber has screwed over great many people, and continues to. From regulatory arbitrage, duping drivers into unprofitable deals, lack of proper insurance, privacy violations, harassing journalists, harassing employees... This has been covered non-stop on HN for pretty much a decade now. I invite you to do some searching, and you…

As crazy as early Uber was I still have trouble believing that taxi companies are more deserving or were better to their employees or less corrupt. There's no evidence. I guess if you prefer being able to ballpark a taxi cost then that's cool! You can still use taxis. But most people prefer to see the price before they get in. Certainly the choice existing is better for the consumer and has helped keep taxi fares low…

> As crazy as early Uber was I still have trouble believing that taxi companies are more deserving or were better to their employees or less corrupt. There's no evidence.

Do you have any evidence, for any taxi network in any city on the planet, of that taxi network doing anything even remotely as illegal or antisocial as Uber has been (and still is) doing? Uber's transgressions are well documented, there is great many of them, and quite a few were done at scale.

For the "deserving" part - they were there. Good or bad, I don't think any business deserves being steamrolled by an aggressive foreign multinational corporation, with practically infinite budget to undercut competitors and keep law enforcement at bay. Local businesses don't get to break the law without impunity.

For being better to their employees, I honestly don't know. But in all the rides with traditional networks I took over two decades of my life, I don't remember any driver actually complaining about their job. Ironically, the drivers of Uber-like[0] services keep complaining all the time - mostly about constantly changing terms of contracts, and constantly testing new kinds of customer acquisition schemes, that tend to take away money from the drivers.

> But most people prefer to see the price before they get in.

I never said I didn't want it either. I like this feature - and guess what, I had that, way before Uber was a thing, thanks to a private company that fought for improvement in transport regulations. That's how I know sociopathy wasn't necessary to disrupting the taxi market.

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[0] - I don't use Uber itself, it's a matter of principle.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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Humanity is the sickness. Only through software and bureaucracy can humans cure their ailment and achieve the proper goals. It's 2021, get with the times.

I am far more concerned about software automating what used to be left to human judgement. AI will judge us just the same, just faster and with no way to appeal to common sense.

I'm pretty sure GP was being sarcastic.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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Uber and Lyft are 100% a win though. - It is now cheaper for the average person to get a ride to an airport/bar than it was before. It is safer, more predictable with timing, and more predictable with pricing. - Uber drivers make more money today than taxi drivers used to/or do today. There are also way more job openings in this than there used to be, with less friction to get involved. The world is not a zero sum ga…

Cab drivers had goals to own a medallion. That medallion value rose allowing someone to retire. What we have is slightly higher pay until your car breaks. No retirement plan. The drivers lose out. The customer rides in someone's personal car pays a little less sometimes but a lot more (demand pricing) when they really need it. Uber/Lift lose money on each ride but will rise prices as soon as they can once you have fe…

Basing your retirement plan around the continuing artificial scarcity of taxi medallions is not smart. The city has no obligation to keep the medallions scarce; their value can drop to zero overnight due to changing regulations (or a drop in demand for taxi services, e.g. because a better public transportation system was implemented) and they won't owe you a dime. You'd be far better off working with Uber instead and putting the money you saved by not needing to buy a medallion into a diversified retirement portfolio.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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lol, no. We're hiring as fast as we can right now for software devs: https://smartthings.pinpointhq.com/

ah! I stand corrected. I swear I had two calls in the last 3-4 months with some Samsung Next folks where it was like, "yeah, we're kind of outta this game."

Probably just a miscommunication, we definitely seem to have gotten completely out of hardware (I wouldn't really know, I was never really involved in any of the hardware side of things), but the software side of things is going stronger than ever.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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OP here - Estate agent asked for 6 months bank statements, which I assume was requested by the referencing agency. I don't think is common practise in the U.K, but I asked around and lots of people told me it is more common that the larger agencies ask for it, plus it was for an apartment in a very competitive development so I feel like it might have been a forcing function to reduce the amount of applicants but that…

Why not ask the bank to confirm that you make enough, without revealing how much you make and your whole spending history?

In competitive rental markets, there will always be another tenant who will not be "difficult" in the eyes of the agent who will snatch the place up from you if you start going off the beaten path.

Before I got my place there were 3 other apartments in the same complex I verbally agreed to and then agent called back to say it had been taken. Not sure if you've rented in likes of London, NY or SF before but the competition can be intense.

Look it sucks that I had to do that, in an ideal world we could have done what you said, but I valued getting the place over my reservations of handing over bank statements.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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I recently moved house. I was previously living with my friend, and we had an agreement I pay sometime before the end of the month. He gave me a contract and said you'll need this, just because when you go to the next place they will ask you for your previous contract. He found it online, it was boiler plate and we agreed verbally I pay him whenever during the month. We we're really good friends, and I lived there fo…

Humanity is the sickness. Only through software and bureaucracy can humans cure their ailment and achieve the proper goals. It's 2021, get with the times.

/s, surely?

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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I recently moved house. I was previously living with my friend, and we had an agreement I pay sometime before the end of the month. He gave me a contract and said you'll need this, just because when you go to the next place they will ask you for your previous contract. He found it online, it was boiler plate and we agreed verbally I pay him whenever during the month. We we're really good friends, and I lived there fo…

Can't really blame software for housing policy. That's a societal issue.

But the landlord (the societal arbiter) agreed in this case - the software denied me. Very much an issue of the software in this case.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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I recently moved house. I was previously living with my friend, and we had an agreement I pay sometime before the end of the month. He gave me a contract and said you'll need this, just because when you go to the next place they will ask you for your previous contract. He found it online, it was boiler plate and we agreed verbally I pay him whenever during the month. We we're really good friends, and I lived there fo…

Can't really blame software for housing policy. That's a societal issue.

The issue is that policy alone is insufficient. Humans can look past the policy's rigidity when necessary; software can't.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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serious Q. how in the world would any credit agency know what day you are paying the rent? In the US, I don't believe any credit agency has insight into my personal bank accounts re size (I think?) or when things are paid to whom they are paid or the like (pretty sure about this). they know about my debts, but unless the landlord puts me into collection, I ca't imagine a reason for my rent appearing on the report (it…

OP here - Estate agent asked for 6 months bank statements, which I assume was requested by the referencing agency. I don't think is common practise in the U.K, but I asked around and lots of people told me it is more common that the larger agencies ask for it, plus it was for an apartment in a very competitive development so I feel like it might have been a forcing function to reduce the amount of applicants but that…

I was asked for 12 months' worth of statements for a place I wanted to rent in Islington. I got them printed out at the bank, and then spent an entire day with a Sharpie and a ruler and redacted every payee and amount in each of those statements. The approved my rental contract without a peep.

A potential employer once also wanted statements - I think 6 months' worth, and I did the same. HR pushed back but legal backed them down rather quickly. I think these people ask because most just comply without question.

Re: We replaced rental brokers with software and filled 200 vacant apartments

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If they bring permanent change to the market and lead to the elimination of rental brokers entirely, I don't care what replaces it.

>I don't care what replaces it What if the replacement is worse?

Such a system is not possible.
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