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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by berniemadoff69 »

just downloaded it. theres a black border around the window on every edge but the top edge. im running windows 10, i wonder if its like that for anyone else.

still no ability to not check for updates. only given the option of 'automatically update' or 'check but let you choose when to install' . it really makes no sense to me. if they are letting you choose when to install, which could be never, why not offer an option of never update?

popup just now saying 'your privacy matters'. the last thing i want is for a browser to ever try and help me 'learn' about how it is helping me with my 'privacy' or anything its doing. it reminds me of opening up Internet Explorer back in the day, the endless amount of garbage you have to check to confirm you've seen the notification before it just finally leaves you alone.

searched 'google' in the input bar - another popup, this time helping me 'learn' how to use the URL input bar, with an 'Okay, Got It' confirm button.

decided ive had enough and closed out, with a popup saying im about to close 2 tabs

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by blibble »

ProAm wrote: post #230
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

It makes me dread taking their monthly releases. I wish they would decouple security fixes with everything else. My address bar is permanently broken, I cannot delete previously viewed sites as suggestions at all anymore.

I switched from gmail to another provider and I just couldn't get rid of "gmail" when searching for "mail"

deleting and re-importing history/bookmarks did nothing, but what did eventually work was opening the sqlite table and deleting the rows manually...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by JohnTHaller »

throwaway41597 wrote: post #372

This version is painfully slow for me. Yet, starting with a clean profile seems to do the trick. Does anyone know how to troubleshoot it so I don't need to lose all my configuration. I have only 3 addons, but 5000 tabs/21 windows. Also a decade of random about:config tweaks which I suspect are the cause. Issues started with version 87 but got a lot worse today. (I'm on Ubuntu with mozilla.org binaries, Intel Haswell)…

You could try backing up your profile and then doing a refresh: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-a...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by trog »

ddek wrote: post #41
userbinator wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because "designers". I'm absolutely sick of this trend of dumbing-down lowest-common-denominator UI, removing useful features and affordances for learning. Insanely huge buttons, rounded corners everywhere, floating controls in a sea-of-white/blackspace... On the bright side, I believe the UI is still highly customisable so it should be possible to make it look exactly as you want, but it's not exactly straightforwar…

I think I'll throw a fit when my 'tabs-on-the-bottom' css inevitably stops working. Why? I don't know. It's not notably better, it's just I like having the top of the content at the top of the screen. But it uses the most legacy of firefox's legacy features, so I can't see it staying around forever.

My userChrome for tabs on bottom stopped with v89 - can I ask what you're using to get tabs on bottom now?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by rurp »

dinosaurdynasty wrote: post #322
ProAm wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes me dread taking their monthly releases. I wish they would decouple security fixes with everything else. My address bar is permanently broken, I cannot delete previously viewed sites as suggestions at all anymore.

They do, it's called Firefox ESR.

I tried that a few years ago, but within months they overrode my update preferences and policies.json file to force push an update that broke functionality I use. That and some other really annoying decisions are why I never recommend Firefox to anyone any more. I grudgingly use it as the current least worst option but would love to bail if there were options.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by herjazz »

rhdunn wrote: post #210
potamic wrote: post #179

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I don't like it. The tabs look like buttons and not tabs. It's such an unnecessary deviation from a standard tabbed interface look and feel that everyone is accustomed to. I'm not sure what their reasons are for experimenting with something new but I would be curious to know.

I'm using https://github.com/ShatteredIcicle/firefox-ui-regression-men... in my userChrome.css file to use more traditional looking tabs. I'm trying to figure out how to make the active tab background the same colour as the bar where the forward/backward buttons are so it integrates into that UI.

I'm using the Lepton fix. That might work for you:-

https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/tree/photon-styl...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Barrin92 »

todd3834 wrote: post #398

I remember the day when Firefox was one of the first things so many people installed on a new Windows machine. I struggle to figure out how Firefox is going to gain marketshare today. I think the privacy features sound great but most people probably believe that the existing browsers consider their privacy as well. Google has such an advantage that they can promote Chrome to users who use their search every day multi…

for me personally adblocking on firefox android, feels actually snappier than chrome with the exception of youtube, no tracking, I like the containers for privacy and some small things like a good picture-in-picture mode built in.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by rurp »

zejn wrote: post #217
Tempest1981 wrote: post #59

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UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.

Browser is a tool to browse the web. Tools need to be functional first. There is a reason why there's no "summer 2021 hammer" in hardware store.

Oh man, I would LOVE it if more software was developed as a tool. I absolutely don't want the look and feel of my miter saw to suddenly change to a "fresh" layout, and I feel the same about my browser.

I get that a lot of people feel differently and that's who Mozilla and many other companies are targetting, but it really bums me out that my tech tools can't be stable and reliable.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by sdk- »

megous wrote: post #221
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

It wouldn't be so terrible, if installable themes were actual UI themes that could modify all the styles and not just a background image.

That'd be a maintenance nightmare...
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