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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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That's exactly it yes. Discord is ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak, but hosted and with IRC channels.

I still use mumble

Hosting Mumble for coworkers since Teams feels sluggish and monitored. We could use both simultaneously but Teams takes exclusive control of the microphone... so they actively Extinguished that too.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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I hosted a LAN party for my friends because I wanted to practice setting up a small network. It’s funny to think that was once semi-challenging.

The “DHCP server” for us was a sheet of paper where you’d write down the IP you were going to ifconfig.

Wingate memories coming back

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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I think that the biggest differentiator between Discord and the others (mumble, TS, Vent, etc) was that Discord has very mature text chatting as a first class citizen, rather than an afterthought. This is what I have anecdotally seen as the primary thing that has made even people who casually voice chat join public discord servers. The model is much more friendly to casual users than either TS or Mumble are.

When I was using Vent and Teamspeak you had to actually host the server, as I recall... so someone had to set it up and manage it, or you could pay a third party to do it, but that was always too expensive for my friends and I.... discord is a lot easier to set up your own server and find and discover other servers

Yep. This is the major differentiator to me and it's obvious why it caught on after that. When I heard about Discord I was like, "Weird, so many people are hosting their own servers or paying to host a server now? Why did it catch on now? More affordable?" Once I learned it was all free... kinda obvious.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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I still use mumble

Hosting Mumble for coworkers since Teams feels sluggish and monitored. We could use both simultaneously but Teams takes exclusive control of the microphone... so they actively Extinguished that too.

On macOS, You can try to prevent this by going to midi audio setup, create an aggregate device, add the microphone to it, and then use the aggregate device in teams. This also has the benefit that Teams will not automatically adjust the gain for you.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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That's exactly it yes. Discord is ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak, but hosted and with IRC channels.

A lot of people make comparisons to vent/mumble/teamspeak/irc, but I think Discord is quite a bit different. I used to hang out on vent/mumble all the way from ~2008 to ~2015 when I switched to Discord. While voice chat is great: 1. Hanging out in voice chat for hours and hours can be exhausting 2. There's no history, so it's hard to have conversation/hang out with people who are busy 3. #2 leads to a lot of FOMO esp…

Obviously discord is different than only mumble alone. Discord is not very different from mumble + IRC, which is what we are comparing to and what I said in my post. IRC of course does have history if you keep your client open which most people do.

Most organized gaming groups used mumble/ts/vent and some combination of IRC and forums. The only difference here is that they're physically in the same app, and of course, there's embedded stuff which is just generally technical iteration (some IRC clients had it). Otherwise IRC always had channels and DMs and mentions and multiple servers. Only setting up your own server wasn't free -- you could easily hop on any network and create as many private channels for you and your friends as you wanted. Yes, older technology wasn't as accessible but at the core it's the same feature set.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Similiar issue with the browser client. I observed it eating away 40% cpu doing...nothing? I can't do anything else with my laptop If I want to be heard or understood by others

Yet Discord still provides a richer feature set with less browser UI lag than Zulip.

It really is amazing how absolutely terrible the enterprise grade discord competitors are.

At least webex seems to finally have a working audio test button.

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UI design? Teams has no UI design, but haphazardly aranged buttons that are hard to spot. I can't describe how bad of experience it is to use. How does a corp that actively pushes their users/clients into using Teams makes no UX effort.

My Org went from Skype for Business to Teams. Teams is 1000x better. The part I like is how it integrates with outlook. My workflow is pretty email oriented so being able to send an email meeting request and have that meeting seamlessly show up in teams app is really nice. Same thing when you receive an email from someone you can click their name and dial them via teams (you could do this with skype to but it was dod…

Copying text works randomly...

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Personally, I wish the desktop client was a bit more lightweight. I understand why they went with Electron, and I don't think they could have afforded their speed of iterated development as a small company otherwise, but I still wish their app was a bit lighter on my laptop. I'm especially disappointed that cordless [1], a very usable third-party terminal-based client for Discord, was banned due to a ToS violation. S…

Similiar issue with the browser client. I observed it eating away 40% cpu doing...nothing? I can't do anything else with my laptop If I want to be heard or understood by others

As someone who uses discord as chat only (if even), their CPU (and partly RAM usage) is simply not excusable. And Audio & Video are not argument for such a bloated client either, well done WebRTC is everything but bloated.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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What do you feel is missing from Discord?

Not making the useage of third party clients a ToS violation. Sometimes it feels like technology from the past was so bad that, given no alternatives, it interferes with the thing you're wanting to do (Skype/Internet Explorer). Those products can easily be subsumed by a competitor that is a superior product (Discord/Chrome). But now it feels that because the options for those niches have been completely filled by tho…

Spam is not a good reason anyway. I would argue browser based spam automations are more easy to setup than modified clients. And Discord can do shit against those.
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