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Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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I'm genuinely curious if you have any idea -- -- is Google misinterpreting your voice? E.g. does it hear a sound it thinks is "play" in the middle of your phrase? -- or is it some weird statistical model that because of invisible and irrelevant correlations, sometimes concludes it's more likely you're asking for music? Like the song with that title is currently in the top 40, or was played by you in the past, or some…

-- is it because you don't speak with a 20-30 year old white male techbro bay area accented voice, so Google never even bothered testing whether it'd work for you? (My brother in law is Australian living in the US, and has to use his "sarcastically fake American accent" to be understood on the phone. He, more politely than I, calls it his "phone voice". It's the same voice all my friends here use when parodying Ameri…

You really don't think Google doesn't test in other huge markets? A study a couple years ago found that Google did awfully well with English speakers from the US, India, and China. [1]

From a quick search, it looks like national accents are less of a problem, and the real difficulties like in dialects and foreign accents (e.g. a Spanish person speaking English).

But the idea that the training corpus used for speech recognition models is all "20-30 year old white male techbro bay area" guys is ludicrous. Where are you even getting this? Speech corpuses used for testing are put together by people who take demographic diversity seriously. On the other hand, they are sometimes biased towards a single mainstream national dialect. (E.g. "standard" American English, as opposed to a thick Boston accent.)

[1] https://voicebot.ai/2018/09/13/google-assistant-takes-lead-i...

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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I'm genuinely curious if you have any idea -- -- is Google misinterpreting your voice? E.g. does it hear a sound it thinks is "play" in the middle of your phrase? -- or is it some weird statistical model that because of invisible and irrelevant correlations, sometimes concludes it's more likely you're asking for music? Like the song with that title is currently in the top 40, or was played by you in the past, or some…

-- is it because you don't speak with a 20-30 year old white male techbro bay area accented voice, so Google never even bothered testing whether it'd work for you? (My brother in law is Australian living in the US, and has to use his "sarcastically fake American accent" to be understood on the phone. He, more politely than I, calls it his "phone voice". It's the same voice all my friends here use when parodying Ameri…

Me too. As a Brit in USA, especially as a scouser, I have to do a comedy American accent to work Siri et al.

Used to be the same in the store, tuna sandwich pls. Huh? What? Oh, toona!

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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> Since when has Google been good at branding? Google's Mid-2000s marketing and product-nomenclature was on-point though: * Google Mail * Google Maps * Google Image Search

That's because it was hardly a product name - they just slapped their corporate name of top of the respective noun...

Well they've named it Google Assistant. I think I'd prefer "ok/hey assistant".

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Smart assistants need to be able to bind predefined activity to clapping. The clapper had the UX nailed. "Alexa, ask phillips hue to turn on the living room light" vs clap clap

As someone who recently acquire a Clapper... I had forgotten just how finicky it could be. Can't clap too quietly, too loudly, too slowly, or too quickly. Often takes me three or four tries! Not exactly an enjoyable experience for the person sitting next to you...

It's 2020, how can things like this be so hard?

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I am glad that you get so much more color-related happiness from your lights than I do.

Ahh well I would say that while Philips Hue (name brand) does work well, it is too expensive for the value provided -- by about 2x to 3x. If they were half their current price then I would recommend them to affluent friends and family. If they were a third their price I would recommend them to even the less affluent friends and family. Even then it's significantly more expensive than a plain light bulb (even LED ones…

Yeah, I like my Hue lights, but they are quite pricey. Part of the cost is that are calibrated well, though. If you have a mixture of white temperature and RGBW lights in one room and set a scene, they will mix decently.

For more generic lighting, there's a reverse engineered firmware you can load onto a ZigBee. I used them to create some wake-up therapy lights: http://edwardsh.in/2019/07/22/hue-compatible-therapy-lights

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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-- is it because you don't speak with a 20-30 year old white male techbro bay area accented voice, so Google never even bothered testing whether it'd work for you? (My brother in law is Australian living in the US, and has to use his "sarcastically fake American accent" to be understood on the phone. He, more politely than I, calls it his "phone voice". It's the same voice all my friends here use when parodying Ameri…

You really don't think Google doesn't test in other huge markets? A study a couple years ago found that Google did awfully well with English speakers from the US, India, and China. [1] From a quick search, it looks like national accents are less of a problem, and the real difficulties like in dialects and foreign accents (e.g. a Spanish person speaking English). But the idea that the training corpus used for speech r…

> You really don't think Google doesn't test in other huge markets?

I'm not entirely convinced Google test _anything_.

Certainly not convinced enough to not play it up in the context of a snarky dis on Google and Googler culture.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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post #414

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As someone who recently acquire a Clapper... I had forgotten just how finicky it could be. Can't clap too quietly, too loudly, too slowly, or too quickly. Often takes me three or four tries! Not exactly an enjoyable experience for the person sitting next to you...

It's 2020, how can things like this be so hard?

That probably depends where on the scale of analog peak detector, through to some kind of AI/DSP FPGA monster you want the product to be.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

I have endless frustrations with Google Assistant / Google Now / Whatever they call it now. A few examples: 1. I have my phone set up to trust bluetooth in my car and unlock my phone. I get in the car and say "okay google, open spotify" -- this is so that it will continue playing what I was listening to before I left work. "Okay", she says, and then tells me that she can't do that because my screen is locked. Sometim…

How long is your phone lock when screen is turned off time?

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

#419

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I'm genuinely curious if you have any idea -- -- is Google misinterpreting your voice? E.g. does it hear a sound it thinks is "play" in the middle of your phrase? -- or is it some weird statistical model that because of invisible and irrelevant correlations, sometimes concludes it's more likely you're asking for music? Like the song with that title is currently in the top 40, or was played by you in the past, or some…

-- is it because you don't speak with a 20-30 year old white male techbro bay area accented voice, so Google never even bothered testing whether it'd work for you? (My brother in law is Australian living in the US, and has to use his "sarcastically fake American accent" to be understood on the phone. He, more politely than I, calls it his "phone voice". It's the same voice all my friends here use when parodying Ameri…

My son has learnt to pronounce "Nate" as "Neat" when convincing Alexa to play DJ Nate songs from a game soundtrack.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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I have endless frustrations with Google Assistant / Google Now / Whatever they call it now. A few examples: 1. I have my phone set up to trust bluetooth in my car and unlock my phone. I get in the car and say "okay google, open spotify" -- this is so that it will continue playing what I was listening to before I left work. "Okay", she says, and then tells me that she can't do that because my screen is locked. Sometim…

I don't even bother trying to use any sort of voice commands while in a car unless I'm stopped and the radio is off. Road noise makes voice recognition an impossible task.

Need better car, or add dynamat to your old car's doors.

Or, possibly different tires.

This is an unusual problem - sounds annoying in general!

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