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Re: Google TV

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Post by dragonwriter »

tootie wrote: post #132
Navarr wrote: post #69

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Google TV is a launcher for Android TV, so far as I can tell. Android TV is not being rebranded, as it is the OS - but Google TV is the "Google Experience" on Android TV. To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV? Will the Play Movies app on my existing Android TV open the Google TV launcher like shown off…

Can I run Google TV on any capable android device? Like an old phone plugged into a USB dock with an HDMI out?

> Can I run Google TV on any capable android device?

The promo talks about Google TV on mobile Android, but I gather that’s a reskin of the Play Movies and TV app, not the Chromecast/SmartTV launcher experience.

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Post by dragonwriter »

xg15 wrote: post #95
adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

Well, they still haven't announced Play TV and Chrome TV, so...

> Play TV

Play Movies & TV (the Android app and service for purchased video content), has been around for a while, but it's just been rebranded as Google TV.

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Post by dragonwriter »

dougmwne wrote: post #17

Oh Google. So this is a reskin and rebrand of Android TV, launching for the first time on the new "Chromecast with Google TV". Not to be confused with a different Google TV from 10 years ago. It's unclear if they are sunsetting Android TV or supporting 2 branches of Android based TV interfaces. Side note, I have a TV with Android TV and it is chock-full-o-bugs. Only in the Google-verse.

> Not to be confused with a different Google TV from 10 years ago

The Google TV 10 years ago was rebranded as Android TV, so the Android TV reskin and slowmo rebrand is literally the linear successor.

(Of course, they are also rebranding Play Movies & TV on Android as Google TV, which makes me wonder what the Google Play Movies & TV app on Android TV is going to become Google TV on Google TV?)

Re: Google TV

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Post by dragonwriter »

andybak wrote: post #135
r-w wrote: post #66

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This has already been possible for years upon years on Roku.

Hasn't this been possible for years on whateverthatgooglethingiscalled? (I genuinely thought it was still called Google TV so I was rather confused by this post - I couldn't work out what was new.)

> Hasn't this been possible for years on whateverthatgooglethingiscalled?

The only aggregation on existing Android TV seems to be “Continue Watching” across apps.

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Post by dragonwriter »

xerxesaa wrote: post #340
Robotbeat wrote: post #216

I think the practice of killing off streaming services and projects that aren't "core" is a huge liability for Google. Why should I invest time and money in a service or product that might be killed off in a few years? We need to reward companies that keep things alive for longer. I got an iPhone recently (over a somewhat cheaper Android) precisely because Apple provides OS updates for longer than any other smartphon…

Fully agree. I paid to purchase hundreds of songs on Google Music and now I have to migrate to Youtube Music which won't let me play those songs without ads and without keeping my phone's screen on unless I pay for a subscription. I already paid to own those songs. Why do I now have to pay a monthly subscription to keep using them? Thanks but no thanks, Google.

> Why do I now have to pay a monthly subscription to keep using them?

You don't. You can download paid and uploaded content from Google Play Music and use it anywhere. This has been supported since before Play Music even had a paid subscription service.

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Post by chaostheory »

kristophph wrote: post #359
chaostheory wrote: post #333

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I'm interested in Google Home functionality, and I like the Google assistant the most when comparing it to Siri and Alexa. It seems to better process non-generic questions and commands better than the other two. What I'm not keen on is a cheap box that doesn't have enough RAM, so that it'll end up lagging. I don't understand why there isn't a premium model. I also don't want to dangle a weight from my HDMI port. That…

Same for me, I hope it won't be laggy at all and the UI is good to use. So far I like my setup with a chromecast and my phone as the remote/tv library (youtube, netflix, amazon video, disney etc.). I especially like that I can start watching something and at the same time I can browse around for something else to watch. It looks like the remote has volume buttons on the right side by the way.

It looks like there’s some lag

https://www.theverge.com/21495609/google-chromecast-2020-rev...

That’s good news on the remote though

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Post by AznHisoka »

strawberrypuree wrote: post #410
AznHisoka wrote: post #375

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Are they actually selling the data directly to 3rd parties? Or just using it for targeted advertising? The latter is obviously occurring but not sure about the first.

What’s the difference in terms of impact to the users? Even if they are not selling “AznHisoka watched x minutes or y show on this date,” they are using it to influence your behavior through ads.

I'm not asking from an user perspective, just curious from a business perspective. The data, if sold, could be useful from a content creation perspective. IE. if you know what shows X usually watches, it could help you with creating new shows.

Obviously, it's useful for advertising as well. But if they're not selling the data directly, it doesn't help with the content creation use case.

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Post by niwork »

Shared404 wrote: post #403
niwork wrote: post #367

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Know of any libraries that will achieve this kind of parallax scrolling-to-reveal rather than just scroll between pages?

No libraries off the top of my head. I know w3[.]css[0] has one example page[1] with a parallax , but I don't know if that's what you're looking for. LineageOS[2] has a site with a decently readable source code. They also don't have exactly what you are looking for, but the with id="rotate-on-scroll" (The spinning phones) and the related script[3] look like they could somewhat related -- you could probably change the…

Thanks for the pointers.

Achieving the parallax seems to be easy enough, but combining it with all these aminations seems a bit more tricky. The animations are more complex than animate.css's approach of just animating when the component is displayed - you can play the animation in reverse by scrolling up rather than down.

I've seen the New York Times and BBC produces stories told in that parallax / animated type way and it's very effective. I'm guessing therefore that they use a standard parallax approach and them one or more animation libraries together; I was hoping there was one neat library that brought it all together but maybe that's asking for too much.

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

dragonwriter wrote: post #415
xerxesaa wrote: post #340

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Fully agree. I paid to purchase hundreds of songs on Google Music and now I have to migrate to Youtube Music which won't let me play those songs without ads and without keeping my phone's screen on unless I pay for a subscription. I already paid to own those songs. Why do I now have to pay a monthly subscription to keep using them? Thanks but no thanks, Google.

> Why do I now have to pay a monthly subscription to keep using them? You don't. You can download paid and uploaded content from Google Play Music and use it anywhere. This has been supported since before Play Music even had a paid subscription service.

Yes, but then they have to somehow manage those files. They paid to have those songs readily available on any of their devices easily through Google Play Music. Now they have a bunch of random mp3 files that can't easily be played on any device. No exactly the same thing.

Sure you can argue that the TOS said this or that when they bought the music.. but the fact remains: if they had bought the music on nearly any other music streaming service, they'd still have access to it easily on any device.

Re: Google TV

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Post by londons_explore »

webmaven wrote: post #310
londons_explore wrote: post #161

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The 1080p60 bug can be fixed by cutting the plastic lid off the Chromecast and adding a fan.

> The 1080p60 bug can be fixed by cutting the plastic lid off the Chromecast and adding a fan. I can't tell if you are serious. I can imagine circumstances where this would work, but... they involve the chromecast having a temp sensor and software to lower the clock speed to prevent overheating, resulting in skipped frames, but at the same time somehow not be able to lower the bitrate of the video stream. Seems... mi…

There is an extra element here... All of what you said is true, but the actual issue is not with the video decoding, but with the thread that feeds data from the network to the video decoder. That thread has some long running stuff running on it, which causes the task to enquire data to the video decode hardware to be delayed.

It used to work years ago, but as more and more software bloat has been added to run in this thread, the delays have increased to the point of stutteryness.

Some videos are jumpy because they have fewer seconds buffered in the hardware decoder.

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