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Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by PostPlummer »

om2 wrote: post #361
PostPlummer wrote: post #319

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> but I can't reproduce either behavior myself Me neither. manOS Catalina, Version 10.15.5. Safari Version 13.1.1 (15609.2.9.1.2) EDIT: Still can't get used to Safari's URL completion behaviour. It is completely unnatural and hard to feel as useful, unlike chrome's which is very handy and behaves like I expect.

Any specific feedback on completion behaviors that feel wrong?

I like to start typing whatever I'm looking for, in the browser bar. There a list will be populated with "suggestions" which I like to use (arrow down) to extent my search query and add some more words.

Safari expects me to "arrow right" or my (more or less) carefully crafted search will be auto removed (since the text will be "selected"). I fall for this x times per day (probably says more about me then about safari). Chrome will allow me to move to one of the suggestions and happily append my text without the need to "deselect" the text.

But there are more "usability" issues with Safari:

Why is the "x" to close a tab, on the left instead of right? Why do I need to press the ALT key to get the option to open a link in private mode (after a right click on the link)? Why can I not drag a URL to a bookmark folder directly? Why can I not re-attach a browser window as a tab in an open window?

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by om2 »

foolmeonce wrote: post #378
om2 wrote: post #361

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Any specific feedback on completion behaviors that feel wrong?

I recently ran into input fields being autocorrected and autocapitalized at 2 different levels (disabled it with an attribute and this caused a delayed capitalization by autocorrect instead of an immediate one) by safari in the iOS emulator.. Luckily the field in question was an actual email so I could fix it by changing the type, since all the official and apple custom attributes I tried failed to turn off the corre…

Input fields is a different thing than the location field. Please file that one too, if you have a reproducible case of autocorrect/autocapitalize that you don't expect.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by om2 »

Whitespace wrote: post #385
om2 wrote: post #361

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Any specific feedback on completion behaviors that feel wrong?

Visit a url with the same work in the title and the url, ie https://github.com/Whitespace/Glome Close safari and reopen it. Type in "Whitespace" then "Bookmarks and History" shows up. Highlight a result, then go to the end of the line and delete that work, thinking you'll be editing the url directly to get: https://github.com/Whitespace It matches on the title and allows you to edit that, leaving you with the option…

Thanks for the specific example!

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by partdavid »

jwitthuhn wrote: post #270
partdavid wrote: post #97

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You have the ability to have a dedicated search box, but your URL bar is also a search box, and you can't turn it off. I want to enter URLs in a box which doesn't try to autocomplete as a search, doesn't search my search engine, doesn't try to fill in missing TLDs, etc. I had something close before 75.0, which introduced the "revamped" address bar that is also swollen. I separated the search box not because I want a…

This is still possible in Firefox 77 if I am understanding correctly. The magic entries in about:config are keyword.enabled - Turning this off will make firefox never search for something you type in the address bar. browser.fixup.alternate.enabled - Turning this off will make firefox never try to "fix" the url you type in by putting .com on the end of it.

This is greatly appreciated!

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by saagarjha »

PostPlummer wrote: post #411
om2 wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any specific feedback on completion behaviors that feel wrong?

I like to start typing whatever I'm looking for, in the browser bar. There a list will be populated with "suggestions" which I like to use (arrow down) to extent my search query and add some more words. Safari expects me to "arrow right" or my (more or less) carefully crafted search will be auto removed (since the text will be "selected"). I fall for this x times per day (probably says more about me then about safari…

> Why is the "x" to close a tab, on the left instead of right? Why do I need to press the ALT key to get the option to open a link in private mode (after a right click on the link)?

I think these are both just macOS convention.

> Why can I not re-attach a browser window as a tab in an open window?

This seems to work for me?

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by saagarjha »

yung0 wrote: post #373
saagarjha wrote: post #6

This has been driving me mad for the better part of a year: the autocomplete behavior in Safari is totally broken. Last year it started picking words from your query and going through your history and using that to autocomplete so you'd always go to some random thing from your history that's barely relevant even for the most generic search terms (if I type "ptrace" I want to go to a web search, not some random Stack…

Stop using it.

Haven't gotten to the point where I'd want to use something else yet. Unless you have some suggestions that might not be on my radar?

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by saagarjha »

reaperducer wrote: post #410
saagarjha wrote: post #262

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> Their idea on the policy is anything you do on your work machine is work-related and the company has the right to see that history. If you want privacy, use your own device. These lines are often blurred (practically–not legally) with BYOD and people doing things like using their personal devices on company Wi-Fi networks.

My company's BYOD policy is that you have to load the company's management software onto your personal hardware, and then if you leave the company, they wipe the device remotely, including all of your personal data. I think it's draconian, but plenty of people signed up for the program. I prefer to keep my home and work gear isolated from one another. I don't even have them on the same ISP.

Yeah, that sounds pretty bad and precisely the kind of thing I don't like at all. The carte blanche that companies have over anything that has been anywhere near anything of theirs is really annoying and not really practical for most people, and kind of stupid of you stop to think about it. Why can't we have company data in a thing where you can wipe just that? If I come to work and bring a personal device, they can supposedly search it. But what am I really supposed to do, leave my phone and watch at home and drop off the face of the earth during that time period? I understand that corporate security is a thing and all but some of this is just something that needs to actually consider practicality :/

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by saagarjha »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #389
shuckles wrote: post #326

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Video playback is a WebKit feature.

The platform audio libraries that Webkit uses on MacOS and iOS are not part of Webkit.

They aren't, but WebKit does a lot of the work around that and it's possible that the bug is in that rather than the platform libraries (which generally do work outside of the browser…) I'd say it's worth filing a bug for WebKit and then see if they send you over to Safari.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

bsmith0 wrote: post #308
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #305

Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Firefox, all working hard to take away the Web's usefulness, feature by feature.

Really? That's a very cynical outlook.

Indeed it is, and I am not a cynical person. I tend to attribute incompetence over malice, and I am not even sure that malice is actually at play here.

But the reality is that with every release of Firefox, Chrome, Safari, piece by piece, the Web's most important behaviors and features, the things which make it so awesome, are being removed.

Re: When you type realty.com into Safari it takes you to realtor.com

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

saagarjha wrote: post #6

This has been driving me mad for the better part of a year: the autocomplete behavior in Safari is totally broken. Last year it started picking words from your query and going through your history and using that to autocomplete so you'd always go to some random thing from your history that's barely relevant even for the most generic search terms (if I type "ptrace" I want to go to a web search, not some random Stack…

In retrospect, the Chrome-driven change from separate URL and search bars to one combined bar was a really bad idea.
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