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Seems risky at this point, since they’ve already posted here. Probably better to wait quietly and report.
Why would it be risky? Surfacing an issue that is important to the public, where future/planned actions by the company could become a PR debacle sounds important.
From Yahoo's reply to the modsandmembers group: "The Groups Download Manager will download any content an individual posted to Yahoo Groups. However, it will not download attachments and photos uploaded to the Group by other members. For those that are having difficulty with the files delivered, this help article explains the types of files within the .zip file sent ... "
The point made on IRC:
The important point is they won't give you the vast majority of photos and attachments. They also don't export databases at all, which are important for certain groups. It's completely arbitrary too, because they give you files other people posted...
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But as a mailing list, each subscriber has the entire archive, at least from the date they joined. And any one of them can make it publicly accessible at any point in the future. In practice it will undoubtedly result in the destruction of enormous amounts of human knowledge, but at least in theory not much is getting immediately lost.
The difficulty in a lot of cases is finding someone who has a complete copy of the group. Yahoo Groups also had file, photo and database features, and archives of those are likely to be incomplete. You'd have to go through the member list (primarily early members) and find someone who still had a copy of all the messages. The other problem is making it available - I ran a Yahoo group for many years, and have Mbox and…
Anybody living in the SF Bay Area, Especially if you live in the Silicon Valley: Pay a visit to Yahoo Global HQ. Find out the borders of their property, park and picket right outside them.
Anybody with the resources: Make / Print a banner that says something like:
yahoo! #WENEEDMORETIME! #YahooGroups
To drape over this pedestrian bridge located at [37.397547, -122.022673] https://goo.gl/maps/XknYg9H3BYWZPESF9 South Entrance Address: 101 E Ahwanee Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94089 (Intersection of W. Ahwanee Ave. & Borregas Ave.) P.S.: A good alternate location is the US-101 Mathilda Avenue Overpass, on the sidewalk southbound / northbound (37.398832, -122.027722)
https://www.fastcompany.com/90440817/bill-gates-solves-your-...
Just thinking out loud: This makes me wonder if we can learn from this and prepare to backup other (similar) platforms that hold such an amount of data and might go away some day. Building the backup tools today and ideally starting to backup now, making the process incremental so you can run it every now and then and only scrape the new stuff.
New Reddit(without the old.reddit.com interface) for example. Many niche subreddits contain lots of information that would be lost if reddit dies(or just deletes these subreddits).
Youtube is unarchivable in principle due high amount of storage required(even thinking of 640x480) and yet it still contains tons of unique content found nowhere else from rare AMVs(that survived prior deletions) to instructions to repair telescopes - or basically anything in video form that doesn't have backups(i.e.not uploaded to other videos sites).
4chan and similar sites are archived by several sites in haphazard manner(only boards they like) and yet it a huge chunk of internet culture that is going to be lost if these sites die(and its more probable than Reddit due less funding). Usenet is slowly fading into obscurity and dependence on Google Groups. Many forums that today exist, will not exist forever: yet very few are archived anywhere else. Other forum-like sites like Stackoverflow and Quora might disappear in the future with nothing replacing them. Github is subject to Microsoft whims and positions on open-source. Wikipedia and various wiki farm sites don't have much revenue streams. Practically every major website we take for granted is vulnerable - people thought Yahoo Groups was going to last forever.
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Here I wrote a blog post to explain why products are shutdown, illustrating Yahoo and Verizon. https://thehftguy.com/2019/12/10/why-products-are-shutdown-t...
I think everyone understands that corporations don't want to spend money and effort maintaining servers that don't generate revenue. No one is really surprised that they won't help with archive efforts. The question is why they're spending real effort on blocking archivists. All they had to do was keep doing nothing for a few days. The cost to them might have been a couple hundred dollars' worth of bandwidth, at most…
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Consumer_Privacy_Ac...
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Unfortunately it doesn't offer a qemu-compatible image or an image that would work when converted, it's a shame and shooting itself in the foot.
An ova file is just a tarball containing an ovf file and a vmdk file. The ovf file is a text-based configuration format, so you can get a basic idea of the config you'd need for qemu. Then the vmdk can be converted with qemu-img. I used the following qemu-img command: qemu-img convert -O qcow2 archiveteam-warrior-v3-20171013-disk001.vmdk archiveteam-warrior-v3-20171013-disk001.qcow2 I use the following to run the VM…