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Post by doubleunplussed »

Scoundreller wrote: post #361
newsbinator wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the Queen's birthday, a Monday off here in New Zealand... ... but not for everybody now.

So what happens when the crown changes? They change the holiday? Immediately? For the next year? Sounds like a bit of a nightmare.

Nah, it's not even her actual birthday. Different countries with the same queen even celebrate it on different days. Presumably it'll be renamed to "king's birthday" but the day kept the same when the monarch changes. Or done away with/re-purposed - there's a general feeling in Australia at least that once the queen dies there will be less support for the monarchy.

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

Scoundreller wrote: post #361
newsbinator wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the Queen's birthday, a Monday off here in New Zealand... ... but not for everybody now.

So what happens when the crown changes? They change the holiday? Immediately? For the next year? Sounds like a bit of a nightmare.

The holiday is on the official birthday. The sovereign's actual birthday has been separate from the official birthday for centuries, so the holiday does not need to change.

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Post by londons_explore »

dpau wrote: post #116
vpontis wrote: post #13

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Gosh, this was so scary... I thought someone had hacked in and deleted everything... I hope they come back. This is still pretty scary

my vm instances are all still there, can even log in via SSH in the compute engine tab. looks like they got a reboot 15 min ago. just restarted some processes but lost my progress on about 12hrs of computing time, i'm guessing it's going to be hard to get a refund..

You'll get a 25 percent refund of all costs for the month if you ask support

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Post by tzs »

hinkley wrote: post #155
toomuchtodo wrote: post #101

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And the illusion of superiority over non cloud offerings.

I keep trying to explain to people that our customers don’t care that there is someone to blame they just want their shit to work. There are advantages to having autonomy when things break. There’s a fine line or at least some subtlety here though. This leads to some interesting conversations when people notice how hard I push back against NIH. You don’t have to be the author to understand and be able to fiddle with…

> I keep trying to explain to people that our customers don’t care that there is someone to blame they just want their shit to work. There are advantages to having autonomy when things break.

There are also advantages to being part of the herd.

When you are hosted at some non-cloud data center, and they have a problem that takes them offline, your customers notice.

When you are hosted at a giant cloud provider, and they have a problem that takes them offline, your customers might not even notice because your business is just one of dozens of businesses and services they use that aren't working for them.

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Post by londons_explore »

cheeze wrote: post #311
jshprentz wrote: post #98

The two Google Cloud networking incidents are: Incident #19008 began at 2019-06-02 12:48. https://status.cloud.google.com/incident/cloud-networking/19... Incident #19009 began at 2019-06-02 12:53. https://status.cloud.google.com/incident/cloud-networking/19... Times are US/Pacific

Looks like they are having trouble updating their statuses. 19008 was supposed to be updated over an hour ago. Meanwhile, 19009 has the same comment posted three times. I'm guessing internal tools are barely working at best.

That is normal for Google status pages.

They don't want to admit fault or place blame because there can be legal and commercial ramifications, so they can only say canned responses.

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Post by jjeaff »

actuator wrote: post #343
sneak wrote: post #289

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Just because you run your own ram and compute doesn’t mean you run your object store, too. Running drives is a commodity now, and crypto is cheap since aes-ni. No idea if this is what instagram does or not, just in general. Drives are hot and need lots of power and it’s expensive to out-S3 S3.

Object store won't cause Instagram to go down though, no? Assets might fail to load.

What's left of instagram without the assets? And some of the assets required to fully load are probably in object store as well.

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Post by countbackula »

SmokeGS wrote: post #82
boulos wrote: post #63

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (but disclaimer, I'm on vacation and so not much use to you!). We're having what appears to be a serious networking outage. It's disrupting everything, including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages. There are backup plans, of course, but I wanted to at least come here to say: you're not crazy, nothing is lost (to those concerns do…

>nothing is lost except time

And reputation. With this outage the global media socket is going to be in gCloud nine.
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