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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #377

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Ask yourself "Do I pay for this Google product?" If the answer is yes, then the product comes with actual support.

They should quote that on the GMail sign up page.

I am frustrated by Google’s lack of support as anyone else, but it is completely unreasonable to expect support for a free product, regardless of how they might otherwise profit off you.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #399

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Who bought it is irrelevant. It could have been released to the public in a similar way to .com and the same issue would remain. The .dev TLD was never reserved for your dev use. If you had been doing it correctly and following the RFC, you wouldn’t have to change anything with your workflow. Now, if they ever release .test for public use then I’ll grab my pitchfork with you.

The fact that it is legal doesn’t make it any less of a PITA though.

The point is that the cause of the PITA is the refusal of people to follow RFCs.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Probably none, going by the track record.

It really depends on the product. E.g. if you buy Google Wifi, you can call them or chat with customer support, etc. If you need help with constructing a web search query, not so much. So, please do not over generalize or compare apples to oranges.

Google Fi’s support might be great. But you have to pay for it through Google Payments which is another potential single point of failure. If you ever trip any of their fraud flags you’ll probably never be allowed to pay for anything through google again, and good luck getting it fixed.

https://onemileatatime.com/google-fi-review/

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #206

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You may get a kick out of this... Google Support 12:53 PM Thank you for contacting Google Domains. My name is and I'll be happy to assist you. Let me quickly read your notes here. 12:54 PM Hi there 12:54 PM How are you? 12:54 PM Hi. I'm trying to read your website but it's broken in one of the dominant web browsers in the world. 12:54 PM Hi you said that the link https://domains.google/tld/dev/ doesn't work on Safari…

> Hi. I'm trying to read your website but it's broken in one of the dominant web browsers in the world. Don't we all hate reports like this one. "Yeah I know what information you need but my high horse told me to write this crap instead."

It works great in Edge, Firefox, and Chrome on my PC. I think he's too high up on his horse to realize that the problem may be on his beloved religion/platform.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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.test, .example, and .invalid are also reserved by the RFC and don't have this problem.

> ".test" is recommended for use in testing of current or new DNS related code. This one looks the safest and least prone to confusion. > ".example" is recommended for use in documentation or as examples. > ".invalid" is intended for use in online construction of domain names that are sure to be invalid and which it is obvious at a glance are invalid. Both of these look problematic from a terminology standpoint, not…

.test is also problematic for the purpose of hosting internal (but not development/testing) domains on a private network.

There is a draft RFC to reserve .internal for this purpose, which I think makes a lot of sense.

https://github.com/wkumari/draft-wkumari-dnsop-internal

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #392

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Doesn't matter the level of support, the CEO of Cloudflare was involved and still ended up bringing politics into infrastructure.

Who is a good/trustworthy registrar then?

https://namesilo.com - reliable, cheap & they offer free whois privacy. All they do is sell domains.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #392

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Who is a good/trustworthy registrar then?

cloudflare?

Problem with Cloudflare is that their CEO has taken down a domain for political reasons.

While I agree with him taking the domain down, but what about the next CEO?

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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I find it hilarious that most solo or indie developers (who they are targeting, and the vast majority of developers) won't be able to get a .dev domain judging by these prices. If they really cared, they would have some program where they validated you were a real developer and actually put some effort into screening out squatters.

Instead they have implemented a braindead dutch auction-style system that ensures developers will not be represented fairly. The marketing and implementation of this are out of touch and its doubtful this effort will be successful.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #214

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Or use any of the million utilities for setting up a machine-local CA. mkcert is one.

You mean wait six to eight months for the IT security department in another division of the company in another state to -maybe- approve my cert request. Not all web development is three guys on Linux laptops at WeWork.

If you're a big org, presumably you could just get your org to just buy the TLD if it's that much trouble.

Something tells me it's not actually that much trouble though, and people just like whining about minor inconveniences because it's the internet and they can.

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