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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by PurpleRamen »

bnt wrote: post #30
techntoke wrote: post #7

This isn't self-hosted? I'm interested in a self-hosted solution that uses local markdown files and directories to manage content.

(disclaimer: I'm building something similar) Why is it every time something like Notion is mentioned, there is always someone who wants "local, self-hosted, Markdown"? Just build it yourself. This clearly shows you have no understanding of the product at hand. Notion is so incredibly powerful that Markdown doesn't even scratch the surface here.

Markdown is a fileformat, while Notion is an interface which can utilize this fileformat. I don't see anything in notion which I could not fit in that fileformat and some folder-structure.

The problem is that making a good interface is a though and long task. It's not done with crapping something together which then barfs out some file. That's people just can't build it themself, because it would be months and years to reach a good quality.

The demand for local&selfhosted on the other side is clear: people don't trust the companies. Companies peek into your data, sell them to other, or just disappear one day. With something under your control this will not happen.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by PurpleRamen »

username3 wrote: post #403
itaysk wrote: post #389

If they added mind map as a progression, that would be the perfect tool. I really need a hybrid text editor/ list editor / mind map

Let us know when you find the perfect tool.

Whenever the perfect tool manifests, another demand appears to make it unperfect.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by PurpleRamen »

atombender wrote: post #136

Notion looks great, and I've been hoping to migrate it. There are two big problems. One is the migration path from Evernote. If you look at all the current notetaking apps, none of them seem to have capitalized on the fact that there are lots of unhappy Evernote users out there who would kill for a smooth, painless migration path. Instead, these apps ask you to export your Evernote notes as HTML, something which Ever…

The database is evernotes internal structure, and can change. The HTML at least is their official export and somewhat stable. I bet when you search on github you will find some scripts converting the database into html. But for a company it might be to much hassle to maintain such a tool.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by qbaqbaqba »

penagwin wrote: post #348
kjksf wrote: post #228

Just in case someone might need it: I reverse engineered their API and wrote (an unofficial) client for accessing the data: https://github.com/kjk/notionapi It's for Go but one could easily port it to any other language. It's just HTTP requests and some light processing of JSON responses. I use it so that I can have my blog content in Notion. In a daily cron job I download the data from Notion, convert it to HTML and…

Aw this is perfect! I've been using notion and have always wished they had an api for this exact purpose! Thanks for sharing this!

Are you sure you want to invest into something that requires you to depend on some third party hack to do what you want it to do?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by PurpleRamen »

Looks like a sleek and powerful interface, but at end seems to be just another kitchensink for manual input. No scripting or other automation and service-API is still in work.

Im always a bit surprised that programmer invest such an amount of time into recreating the same software again and again. Notes&Task-Manager are all more or less the same, and most of them are not something which a programmer really should use. Those people are handling code and data for other people as natural as a cook his knife. And yet when it comes to their own data they always go for the stale and static, the dumb solution which can is so different from their normal self. Why is that?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by ohadpr »

oscarpas wrote: post #396
rolleiflex wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here — I cannot create an account with a password. If you try to go in and do an email signup, they will punish you for it by emailing you every time with a new password, until you suffered enough that you'll relent and give them access to your Google account. Not a great first impression — especially not after their support tells me that this is for my own security.

I use Notion with a non google e-mail and don't mind the password being e-mailed to me. I have to re-auth maybe once a month, tops, and it's one less password to manage.

It is an extremely frustrating practice (emailing you the password). I find that I have to go through this every few days for whatever reason and I've had cases where the email from Notion took five minutes to arrive.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by OJFord »

feanaro wrote: post #35
bnt wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(disclaimer: I'm building something similar) Why is it every time something like Notion is mentioned, there is always someone who wants "local, self-hosted, Markdown"? Just build it yourself. This clearly shows you have no understanding of the product at hand. Notion is so incredibly powerful that Markdown doesn't even scratch the surface here.

> Why is it every time something like Notion is mentioned, there is always someone who wants "local, self-hosted, Markdown"? Just build it yourself. Why not? Is there something wrong with wanting a local, self-hosted tool? Or wanting to pay for it instead of building it yourself?

Maybe GP meant it as a call to arms? We're all here asking each other for something, but apparently none of us are building it.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by danols »

setgree wrote: post #399
ohadron wrote: post #390

Used notion for about 6 months, but stopped for two main reasons: 1. It's extremely slow on even a new iPhone - about 6-7 seconds until I can start typing a note. By then I forget what I wanted to write. It's basically a webview of a very heavy web app, so it's not snappy at all. 2. No offline support whatsoever. In addition it feels like they have abandoned development or are busy being acquired (~bi-weekly updates…

> In addition it feels like they have abandoned development or are busy being acquired (~bi-weekly updates until about three months ago: https://www.notion.so/What-s-New-157765353f2c4705bd45474e5ba... ) Notion founders, do you care to comment on this? My company recently started a paid account on Notion and I'd love to know more.

The founder (ivanzhao) has made an appearance and only made one comment to so far to thank for some praise.

Hasn't addressed a single question or replied to any concerns/feedback. Not a great sign and makes me reluctant to give it another try.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by u2386 »

ohadron wrote: post #390

Used notion for about 6 months, but stopped for two main reasons: 1. It's extremely slow on even a new iPhone - about 6-7 seconds until I can start typing a note. By then I forget what I wanted to write. It's basically a webview of a very heavy web app, so it's not snappy at all. 2. No offline support whatsoever. In addition it feels like they have abandoned development or are busy being acquired (~bi-weekly updates…

FYI, Bear does not support markdown table syntax
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