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Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

geezerjay wrote: post #295
moritzplassnig wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When GitHub's financials got leaked in 2016, GitHub's personal accounts accounted for 12.5% of their revenue. GitHub Enterprise was 50%, their organization (= business) accounts were the remaining 37.5% [1]. It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. [1] https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... (disclaimer: I wrote the article but the data is by Bloom…

> It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. Your assertion can only make sense if you also believe that a 12% paycut is irrelevant to your income.

Your assertion can only make sense if the same economic factors and reasoning that govern a private individual's pay also govern a large multinational organization's revenue.

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Post by [deleted] »

_vuqm wrote: post #343
ihuman wrote: post #328

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> Github is a growing social network for developers But in a social network I am the product

depends on how the social network is monetized. There are no ads on Github. Unless github is selling user data to third parties, their monetization method is well known (paid enterprise features)

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Post by Zekio »

bduerst wrote: post #392
madamelic wrote: post #365

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I feel like your entire comment could be ended with "...yet" I'm sure the screws will tighten on it. Unless Microsoft's entire plan is to run it forever, giving blank checks to GitHub, as a way to endear developers to Microsoft. Maybe.

I can't remember - Did Skype have ads before or after Microsoft acquired it?

It had ads for a long while before Microsoft acquired it, but IIRC then you could actually remove them by removing a checkmark in settings

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Post by taspeotis »

_wmd wrote: post #339
nickjj wrote: post #232

While I think this is a great move, don't forget that private repos also means no more free Travis CI. Gitlab CI however offers 2,000 build minutes a month with their integrated CI service. Even if your whole set up takes 10 minutes to build on CI, that's 200 builds a month which is plenty for an individual project that's on a private repo. In other words, I think Gitlab's free private repos + CI is still a better ch…

Azure Pipelines free offering is superior to Travis by every imaginable metric - UI latency, build latency, featureset, sane, carefully thought about YAML syntax, etc.

As someone who uses the paid Azure Pipelines agents I can say I really like it generally but their hosted build agent performance is ... adequate ... at best.

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Post by codazoda »

siminuk wrote: post #324
apetresc wrote: post #312

So, when I go to downgrade my Pro account to the Free tier, it warns me: > You will no longer have access to unlimited collaborators or advanced code review tools in private repositories. > You will still have access to unlimited private repositories. So it seems some functionality beyond just unlimited collaborators that is tied to the Pro account - but the blog post makes no mention of what these "advanced code rev…

Hi! I work at GitHub. All the details are listed on the official pricing page in the feature comparison section: https://github.com/pricing and in the docs: https://help.github.com/articles/github-s-billing-plans/#bil...

As far as I can tell, neither of those resources describe "advanced code review tools".

What does that mean? What are these code review tools?

The help document does talk about Protected Branches and Code Owners but those seem different than code review tools and "code review" is listed in the free plan.

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Post by noarchy »

One fear that has come to mind: Microsoft pulls a Google and tries to force Github and LinkedIn to work together somehow - like requiring a login from one to use the other. I hope they have the presence of mind to not poison Github with LinkedIn in any way.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by nickjj »

_wmd wrote: post #339
nickjj wrote: post #232

While I think this is a great move, don't forget that private repos also means no more free Travis CI. Gitlab CI however offers 2,000 build minutes a month with their integrated CI service. Even if your whole set up takes 10 minutes to build on CI, that's 200 builds a month which is plenty for an individual project that's on a private repo. In other words, I think Gitlab's free private repos + CI is still a better ch…

Azure Pipelines free offering is superior to Travis by every imaginable metric - UI latency, build latency, featureset, sane, carefully thought about YAML syntax, etc.

Their documentation seemed weird.

It seemed like if you wanted to self-host your own CI builder with their agent, it was still limited to 1 parallel build on their free plan?

Is that true?

With Gitlab, if you bring your own runner, there's no limitation like that AFAIK (I've never done this yet because I never surpassed 2k build minutes a month) but I glanced their docs.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by kemitche »

nambit wrote: post #245
moritzplassnig wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When GitHub's financials got leaked in 2016, GitHub's personal accounts accounted for 12.5% of their revenue. GitHub Enterprise was 50%, their organization (= business) accounts were the remaining 37.5% [1]. It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. [1] https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... (disclaimer: I wrote the article but the data is by Bloom…

12.5% is still a significant percent of revenue.

Unless it's shrinking as devs realize other platforms offer a free version of the same service. Especially if those devs decide that they like the new platform better, and convince their company to use it.

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Post by floatingatoll »

codazoda wrote: post #415
siminuk wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! I work at GitHub. All the details are listed on the official pricing page in the feature comparison section: https://github.com/pricing and in the docs: https://help.github.com/articles/github-s-billing-plans/#bil...

As far as I can tell, neither of those resources describe "advanced code review tools". What does that mean? What are these code review tools? The help document does talk about Protected Branches and Code Owners but those seem different than code review tools and "code review" is listed in the free plan.

EDIT: Removed my original reply. The PR was posted a day early by accident, so giving them room to deal with that.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by dwild »

geezerjay wrote: post #295
moritzplassnig wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When GitHub's financials got leaked in 2016, GitHub's personal accounts accounted for 12.5% of their revenue. GitHub Enterprise was 50%, their organization (= business) accounts were the remaining 37.5% [1]. It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. [1] https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... (disclaimer: I wrote the article but the data is by Bloom…

> It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. Your assertion can only make sense if you also believe that a 12% paycut is irrelevant to your income.

> Your assertion can only make sense if you also believe that a 12% paycut is irrelevant to your income.

You only see the short term.

I was on Github during my university, all my projects were there, my team mate were on there too, it was pretty great. When my student account expired, I decided to move everything to Gitlab. I didn't want to move but I won't pay 7$ a month to host my old school projects and some personal stuff. Now that I did move everything, I actually enjoy Gitlab quite a bit.

What do you think I'm going to use if I start a commercial project? In the past I would have chosen Github, but now that I'm comfortable with Gitlab and see all its benefits, it's probably the one I would choose.

Cutting that 12% may lose 12% in the short term, but in a few years, it's going to gain you much more than 12%.

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