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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

It depends on what the meaning of the word "equally" is.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

If only it were so simple. What you are proposing seems to require universal acceptance of an authoritarian regime that sets the social rules which are, as you say, "not negotiable". Otherwise in a free society almost everything is negotiable and a precise definition of common decency is not so common, particularly across cultures. Similarly, trying to produce a complete and widely-accepted definition of intolerance is almost certain to elicit plenty of actual intolerance, but not enough to actually compile a complete and widely-accepted definition of intolerance.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

There is no such paradox.

Popper is talking about not permitting of force as a mechanism for dispute resolution. The "paradox of tolerance" isn't a paradox at all. It's just a bludgeon people use to suppress free speech. It's ridiculous to claim that a discussion of the proper level of immigration is a threat to discourse generally.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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There was essentially no new news in the hacked emails -- People had been reporting for years that Schmidt was supporting HRC's presidential bid, including forming a startup to help her with engineering talent: https://qz.com/520652/groundwork-eric-schmidt-startup-workin...

Well it is a confirmation a paid arrangement was in place, which is actually big deal. Anyone paid to consult or render services for that campaign should be under intense scrutiny.

They are.. which is why they have dozens of entries in the FEC's disbursement database since June 2015:

https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction...

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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To be honest so much corporate speak. Only Sergei's voice seems to be authentic. Everyone else trying to be extremely careful with their language of comments even though it's not a public event. And "misinformation" and "fake news" will be combatted by AI? Seriously? That is like saying, "I have no clue but I will use some buzzwords". Pichai/GOOG knows AI better than everyone. I think they still don't have plan for c…

Not a public event? Well, how come we are watching the video? It's public. So careful? Why are you using a throwaway account?

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

As a conservative who worked at Google: There also is risk is that if a conservative shares a conservative view correlated with intolerant views (but not actually intolerant), they become likely to be lumped in with the intolerant. The hard part about Popper's paradox is defining what is intolerant (outside of the obvious cases cited in the comments here).

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Considering he continues to have a severely underwater approval rating I’d wager it’s less derangement and more the majority view. If anything the “it’s all normal, everything is fine” folks whose reactions are more interesting here. It’s certainly not the consensus view.

I haven’t exactly seen trans folks being rounded up and out into camps. The people who said everything was going to be all right were correct. TDS remains in effect for others.

“Not committing genocide” is a very low bar for a presidency in the worlds sole superpower and I’m concerned that anyone would hold this or any administration to such a low standard.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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post #416

Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

As a conservative who worked at Google: There also is risk is that if a conservative shares a conservative view correlated with intolerant views (but not actually intolerant), they become likely to be lumped in with the intolerant. The hard part about Popper's paradox is defining what is intolerant (outside of the obvious cases cited in the comments here).

When accusations of intolerance become effective weapons for silencing one's opponents, everything befomes intolerant. There's no mystery principle here: censorship and intimidation are pure power plays.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Who is clamoring for open borders? I don't know of any prominent examples of political figures who take that position, just examples where their opponents falsely characterise the position as "open borders".

The ptogressive base makes arguments for it. They make arguments against ICE, make arguments agaist enforcing immigration laws, make arguments for “sanctuary cities”. What other country, even poor countries who, for consistency’s sake, should espouse such policy had such policies? Most othet countries I’ve been to the police have the power to deport; depening on case, on the spot. I have known of people who worked ab…

Neither "abolish ICE" nor "sanctuary cities" are equivalent positions to "open borders". That's my point. I just searched again, and find only one example of a politician coming anywhere close to advocating open borders (Keith Ellison, representative for MN, wore a shirt saying "yo no creo en fronteras." He has however repeatedly refused to openly say he supports "open borders".) The mainstream liberal/progressive position isn't to clamor for open borders. It is to clamor for every individual to be treated with dignity and respect and compassion for their circumstances. The push to abolish ICE and for sanctuary cities is a reaction to injustice committed in the name of the law by ICE specifically. (In the progressive view, what is "just" is a different question to what does the law say.) All the talk about "open borders" comes from conservatives purposely exaggerating and mis-characterizing their opponents' views.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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I find it hard to believe you couldn't think of a reason to not support mass migration other than 'racism', but Sweden let around a million people into a country of 10 million in an unmanaged fashion which is causing a lot of social issues? Germany where Angela Merkel let in 5 million people and the CDU lost a huge amount of support after similar things happened?

50 million people? Germany has a total population of 80 million, so something is definitely off with your numbers. What kind of "social issues" have immigrants caused in Sweden?

5 million, typo edited. The second is easily Googlable and not under dispute by anyone.
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