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Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Post by alluro2 » Sun, Jul 22, 2018, 1:11 AM UTC

garren wrote: post #121

RussianCow wrote: post #57

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> justify the MacBook Pro's ludicrous pricetag that has some shiny numbers on the tech specs sheet If you think people buy MacBook Pros because of their tech specs, you are missing the point. MacBooks are by far the best general purpose, well-rounded laptops on the market from a build quality perspective. Everything from the screen to the touchpad to sleep/hibernate (and, until recently, the keyboard) is finely tuned…

I have a handful of laptops but by far my most reliable have been my macbook pros. I'm writing this on a mid-2010 mbp that's run like a champ since day one. I also have a 2014 mbp for work, but I really like the 2010. It's not a skinny ultra-portable but it's not a tank either. It only runs hot when I have it hooked up to a large display. Eight years with no notable problems for a daily driver is pretty good in my ey…

I appreciate your comment and sentiment, and agree to some extent about previous MBPs, but saying that "it only gets hot when attached to a large display" is quite shocking...I normally use 3 external screens for work on my Dell XPS (previously Thinkpad), and don't understand why a powerful laptop would get hot just by outputting to displays..

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Post by chx » Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 8:45 AM UTC

komocode wrote: post #101

chx wrote: post #75

This madness is something Apple can only blame themselves for. It's Steve Jobs' ploy to kill the laptop market. He didn't need the laptop market, he had the iPhone, he knew of the iPad when he demo'd the Macbook Air. Today the entire Mac revenue https://www.statista.com/statistics/382260/segments-share-re... is below 10%. See, he have started the thin craze and everyone copied. But noone needs a thin laptop. There's…

That's a serious tin-foil hat you got there.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kmkve/thinner-an...

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Post by ambhaiji » Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 9:17 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #297

tjoff wrote: post #250

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> since modern thermal pastes are non-conductive, there is no real downside to an enthusiastic application of paste except for making a mess, so you want to default to putting too much on rather than having some dumb intern kill a PC with an insufficient application. There is virtually no effect on thermals. The effect on thermals are absolutely not insignificant. Thermal pastes are actually extremely bad at transfer…

so IIUC thermal paste is only 'better' than air gaps :) anyone ever friction soldered a heatsink to an IHS ?

This is possible but friction welding needs temperatures to reach above melting point for a little while that is 1085°C for copper and 660°C for aluminium, machinery needed to do this would be insanely expensive and would need to be done to the IHS detached from the cpu as that gets ruined at around 115°C i think, it would be better for enthusiast grade heat sinks to carve out an IHS in their blocks. but that would be made for mainstream processors only 8700k, some intel hedt and amd threadrippers

Edit: selling custom IHS integrated heatsinks with LM applied and nail polished is a small and probably fairly inconsistent business to invest in buying a well binned 3790k kit, very few people would upgrade till an 8700k which showed significant gains worthy of an upgrade you would run dry for a few years especially the premium you would ask for such a service people would use these things for a long long long time i know people who are still using i5 2600k just because majority games are poorly multithread optimized

AMD could collaborate with EKWB would be great TR2 Liquid and Navi 96 Liquid. Intel have too much ego to collab