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Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by arrrg »

makomk wrote: post #120
rtpg wrote: post #32

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>I don’t make games with the intention of them becoming huge hits, and I don’t try to change the world. >I think that's the essence of being a real game developer. Really? (to be read with the least amount of snark possible) I think most game developers have the same sort of mindsets as other people in creative fields, and while the objective is to make great games, most developers seem to have that little twinkle in…

Phil Fish "needs" to hide because he's an asshole who, amongst many other things, successfully bullied a sexual assault victim into apologizing for talking about the fact that he'd been sexually assaulted. Edit: and even then he doesn't have to hide from the internet except to avoid the flamefests he keeps actively starting, fueling, and turning into Twitter pileons against people he dislikes if he doesn't.

Stupid “Gamergate” conspiracies on HN. What is wrong with you? Why are you posing this here?!

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by cLeEOGPw »

yupmetoo wrote: post #262
cLeEOGPw wrote: post #258

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It's sad. But it looks like he simply doesn't have what it takes to be the kind of person we all wish he was. Nobody can't blame him for that. Leading of something big is hard and exhaustive process. Especially for introverts like Notch.

Or perhaps he doesn't WANT to be the kind of person you "we all" wish he was. This idea that people who are good enough at a thing must somehow become a CEO or leader creates a lot of unhappy people. Let the managers manage, and the engineers make things. Don't put pressure on people to do something they don't want just because you want to see what happens.

You just repeated what I have said without disagreeing with me, but somehow you made it sound like you are telling something of the opposite of what I meant.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by jokoon »

krelian wrote: post #29

This whole Minecraft thing has been very interesting to follow. I tried the game a few times and it's not really for me but everything around Notch's story is interesting (I bet their going to make a movie about this at some point). Not everyone can be an entrepreneur and I feel that in this case (on a different scale of course), we basically watched a plausible version of how Apple could have gotten started if there…

> Not everyone can be an entrepreneur

can't you have a company by hiring someone to lead instead of you, only giving him directions ? I mean couldn't mojang become some sort of game development laboratory instead ?

for example google throws money they get from advertising at other experiments, I'm really dreaming of doing that for game development.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by neohaven »

adventured wrote: post #266
tdicola wrote: post #248

I can't help but think this deal is going to have the exact opposite effect on Notch as he intended. Now everyone knows he's a billionaire and people will come crawling out of the woodwork to try and get something from him. Also parts of the Minecraft community will be pretty upset about the decision, and if a year from now things go sour and Minecraft isn't what it used to be then people will be even more upset with…

Fine points, but he's not likely to be a billionaire. He's a part of owner. Throw in the 30% Sweden tax on the sale, he's more likely to land around $600m to $700m (including previous income realized from Mojang). He's close to being a billionaire.

He had money before the deal. Notch is solidly a billionaire.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by opendais »

rpdillon wrote: post #372
opendais wrote: post #301

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I think you are ignoring the condition on that sentence. "Once sales start dying and a minimum time has passed, I will release the game source code as some kind of open source."

Sales will, at some point, start dying. He has, as far as I can tell, relinquished control of the source in a manner that will forbid him from open sourcing the game at that point.

So what? He should screw his business partners out of 2 billion so he could keep a promise from years ago when he had no clue how this would go?

Especially a promise to a community that throws him under the bus whenever something happens they don't like (even if he isn't involved)?

I don't think that is reasonable.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

opendais wrote: post #405
rpdillon wrote: post #372

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Sales will, at some point, start dying. He has, as far as I can tell, relinquished control of the source in a manner that will forbid him from open sourcing the game at that point.

So what? He should screw his business partners out of 2 billion so he could keep a promise from years ago when he had no clue how this would go? Especially a promise to a community that throws him under the bus whenever something happens they don't like (even if he isn't involved)? I don't think that is reasonable.

I agree. That's why I don't recommend ever open-sourcing any software with commercial possibilities. You'd be throwing money away.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by ido »

chris_mahan wrote: post #293
msh wrote: post #268

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I tried playing dune2 again, it was still a good game but it was so annoying that you could only select one unit at a time.

Use the keyboard shortcuts. A attack. M move. (Muscle memory) Also, use the missile launcher. stay away from missle turret range, and fire one square away from missile tower. Enough missiles miss target, land on turret, that with enough missile launchers you can defeat missile turrets, or bleed enemy spice reserves at least. Protect your missile launchers with a line of heavy tanks just behind, in case the enemy make…

I did. still too tedious to control, after getting used to modern games.

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Post by vanattab »

easytiger wrote: post #400
deciplex wrote: post #361

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Woz doesn't stir up drama on Twitter every time someone in his industry does something he doesn't like. Notch sorta does (cf. "I’m a nerdy computer programmer who likes to have opinions on Twitter."). (For the record, I think most of his opinions are great opinions.) I'm open to the idea that people can change their minds, or that the circumstances might be different, or that he felt he couldn't do the job anymore, o…

Yea but Woz isn't contributing technically anymore

Is notch? I was under the impression that notch has not worked on any real production code in a long time. I was always under the impression that he is not "technically" that good and the original minecraft code was very inefficient but I could be wrong.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by ionised »

scottjad wrote: post #86

The other day there was a post about some Doom map viewer Notch had written in Dart. One of the top comments said something along the lines of "This is why we all need to be rich, so we can work on stuff like this." I thought the comment was so sad because honestly, almost no one is going to benefit from a mostly broken Doom map viewer in Dart that's abandoned after a few days. Same with the numerous games he's start…

I'm not sure I would ever agree with the idea that a person owes the world their blood and sweat just by coincidence of being born.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by jules »

xiaoma wrote: post #271
jrochkind1 wrote: post #157

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Of course, it being a big hit is what gives him enough money that he now can live comfortably while working on whatever the hell he wants without worrying about making money. I'm not critisizing him, I'm glad he has that opportunity, and I'm glad he's recognized what opportunity he wants (which is apparently NOT the opportunity to try and make even more money). But it's a bit more complicated than "success is shit",…

He's Swedish. He didn't need to strike it rich to escape worries about a roof over his head and health care.

You only get unemployment benefits it you are enrolled in a job seeking plan. So while you may not need to worry about becoming homeless, getting unemployment benefits is an entirely different predicament than what Notch is in now.
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