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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by dieselgate »

xtracto wrote: post #354
ryandrake wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the real problem. Being aggressively annoying works . Dark patterns work. Popups that grab your attention work. Flashing text conveying urgency works. Thumbnails with open-mouth YouTube-face work. Moving buttons around so people mis-click works. Tiny [X] buttons that make people accidentally click an ad work. You're never going to convince someone to stop doing something that is making them money.

Spamming image based penny stocks emails also worked; doesn't make it right. Advertising should.be illegal.

> Advertising should.be illegal.

I dislike advertising as much as the next guy but wouldn't go so far as making it illegal

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by unselect5917 »

bee_rider wrote: post #114
jchw wrote: post #95

Should load much slower. Also, where is the unrelated autoplaying video that will unmute if you actually click it, that follows your scrolling and only becomes smaller when you dismiss it? Plus, it should probably have text that cuts off letting you know you can have access for just $10/month. Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's t…

> Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's that at? This is the most annoying thing on the internet. There’s a site I’d like to use, but “try the app” takes up the entire page (and appears to be impossible to dismiss?). Actually, is there a way to permanently request the desktop site for all future visits to a domain on iOS? There is n…

I know the Brave browser can be set to always request the desktop version of the site. Whether or not the website respects that or not may vary. And yes, on iOS.

It's also effectively youtube premium for free as in beer. Lovely browser.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by unselect5917 »

ryandrake wrote: post #214
idopmstuff wrote: post #152

I started an e-commerce brand on a Shopify site. I swore to myself I would never put up one of those stupid things that pops up "Someone bought X product an hour ago!" messages in the corner of the screen. I ended up trying it. Boosted conversion rate meaningfully. Worth the price I pay in mild self-loathing. Chesterton's popup, I guess.

That's the real problem. Being aggressively annoying works . Dark patterns work. Popups that grab your attention work. Flashing text conveying urgency works. Thumbnails with open-mouth YouTube-face work. Moving buttons around so people mis-click works. Tiny [X] buttons that make people accidentally click an ad work. You're never going to convince someone to stop doing something that is making them money.

I hate that you're right. Short term gains for long term suffering, though?

Just another horror beyond our comprehension?

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by dghlsakjg »

vovavili wrote: post #223
dghlsakjg wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t use a bunch of unnecessary tracking cookies? Completely eliminates the need for a cookie permission bar.

I am obviously referring to a scenario where tracking cookies would be highly beneficial to expanding the business, e.g. e-commerce.

Something being beneficial to a business does not make it broadly necessary, desirable, or - in many cases - legal.

It would be extremely beneficial to businesses to put a clause in their terms and conditions that limit damages to 1 cent in the event of any dispute. For obvious reasons we don't allow anything like that to be enforced.

I'm not saying whether tracking should or shouldn't exist, but "the business can make more money" is not a valid argument in my book.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by xtracto »

dieselgate wrote: post #401
xtracto wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spamming image based penny stocks emails also worked; doesn't make it right. Advertising should.be illegal.

> Advertising should.be illegal. I dislike advertising as much as the next guy but wouldn't go so far as making it illegal

I was thinking of this post that made the rounds here some weeks ago:

https://simone.org/advertising/

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by unselect5917 »

robertjwebb wrote: post #40
kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #34

Needs a Google login popup, required for any site that there is no reason at all to have an account with.

It should appear a second after the page seems to have finished loading, so that it hijacks the input if the user is navigating with the keyboard or typing something into a form.

This post made me irrationally angry.

Man, I need to unplug.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by m3047 »

Well that's pathetic, only three new FQDNs. Two of them are on CF, one on AWS. Where are the effing CNAME chains?

And this is something which I learned which is surprising to me: github.com resolves to AWS. WTF? GH has its own netname and a /20. It's literally one hop, somehow, from my ISP. WTF? It's not MS and it's this shite? WTF?

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by SilasX »

dijit wrote: post #18
RivieraKid wrote: post #14

The cookie thing, I assume it's EU-only, is an example of the EU policy making process being fundamentally broken in some way. If you create a flawed policy and don't fix it many years after it's very visibly obvious that it's a bad policy, something is really wrong.

it's an example of malicious compliance by some, and herd mentality by others. I had a discussion with my CFO about removing the cookie banner from our website (because we don't set any tracking cookies, and cookies for things like login are exempted) and he said "yeah, but it makes the site seem less legitimate.

It's not malicious compliance when the very governing authorities for this in the EU do the same thing.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by m3047 »

robertjwebb wrote: post #40
kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #34

Needs a Google login popup, required for any site that there is no reason at all to have an account with.

It should appear a second after the page seems to have finished loading, so that it hijacks the input if the user is navigating with the keyboard or typing something into a form.

LinkedIn today is so serious about its cookies it can't do proper logout. As long as there's a cookie, I don't know if it's random or what's going on, but if you log out... there's a > 20% chance if you leave for a while and then go back to LI... you're still logged in!

If you log out, and then (in Firefox) close the window... oh wait, you're not really logged out. Try again.

If you log out in Firefox, wait until the window is quiet, then delete the cookie... LinkedIn creates a new cookie... which still sometimes logs you back in but not as often.

Opening a new window, deleting the LinkedIn window (fuck watever it's doing), and THEN delete the cookie in the NEW window... then it seems to stay gone at least as of today.

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