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Were you a former customer of Vodafone-Ziggo? If yes, did you delete your account?
Even if, they shouldn't call me again after I tell them not to.
That's great. Netherland banned them a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I still receive them. Sometimes a lot. A year or two ago, I received calls almost every week from a major TV/internet provider (Ziggo-Vodafone; total crooks). I told them not to call me again, I complained to the regulator, but as far as I can tell, nothing was ever done about it. So banning it is great, but you still need to enforce that law.
Here's what has worked for me (in the US), after feeling helpless for so long: Call Screening. I had no idea this existed on iOS (there may be an equivalent on Android), and I was very skeptical about it, but it has turned spam calls into a non-issue for me. https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/screen-and-block-call...
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I never understood what are the technical obstacles to building the phone network in such a way that caller numbers can not be spoofed or suppressed. Then, you could just build a system where receiving an unsolicited phone call from a commercial entity entitles you to a compensation in small claims court, to the tune of 50 EUR, unless the caller can prove that you explicitly authorised them.
It would work until you need to route an international call. And there's a lot of telemarketing and scams happening across country lines. I mean, they should still do it. It's just the first problem they'd face.
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Nix-registret is awesome! I didn't realise just how good it is until I transferred ownership of my number to my company, which automatically took me off the list(companies can't be in nix) which almost immediately made me regret owning a phone. There are tax benefits to having the company foot the phone bill, but it's not worth it, currently.
How does it work, technically? In the US we have something that is supposed to be similar--put your number on a registry and telemarketers can't legally call you--but in practice we've just built a list of real phone numbers that telemarketers and scammers can use to target numbers that are owned by real people rather than brute-forcing the entire phone number space. If there is any enforcement at all, it's impercept…
I'm not sure how enforcement works, from the copy on their website it seems like it's purely voluntary to even check there, but serious companies do because their customers will hate them forever if they call people who are registered.
I'm actually surprised it works so well given the apparent lack of enforcement. The only calls I ever get these days are from someone with an Indian accent who says "hello I'm calling from Blockchain", and even that has been a while!
Personally I've benefited 100x more by using Truecaller but with time the app has been enshittified with weird features. That and my migration to iOS which has questionable support for Truecaller has made me the target of spammers again.
Furthermore many telemarketers are now using Whatsapp bypassing such regulations.
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Thanks for the information, I live in Sweden and get calls at least once a week, but it's annoying enough. I visited family in Brazil and was shocked about how people there seem to get unsolicited marketing calls every hour or so!! My mom was forced to change her number to stop them as she nearly got scammed of several thousand dollars - sometimes the scams are extremely convincing - in this case they knew she was at…
Once a week, LOL. I get 3-6 calls per day (USA).
Years ago when I first found Lista Robinson was because I felt like I received calls once a day and had to do something about it because it was too much. If I got 3-6 calls per day I'd think I'd get rid of my phone in total, I wouldn't want to have a phone at all if that happened :P Then some of the residents in the US are used to gunshots going off in their neighborhood, I just don't know what to think anymore...
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Nix-registret is awesome! I didn't realise just how good it is until I transferred ownership of my number to my company, which automatically took me off the list(companies can't be in nix) which almost immediately made me regret owning a phone. There are tax benefits to having the company foot the phone bill, but it's not worth it, currently.
How does it work, technically? In the US we have something that is supposed to be similar--put your number on a registry and telemarketers can't legally call you--but in practice we've just built a list of real phone numbers that telemarketers and scammers can use to target numbers that are owned by real people rather than brute-forcing the entire phone number space. If there is any enforcement at all, it's impercept…
Now it was decades ago I worked in cold calling telemarketing, but back then, the company basically purchased/subscribed to various lists of numbers they get from other companies, and also had lists of numbers to not call, either obtained from the do-not-call registries, or their own lists of "unsellable" customers, bad numbers and so on, simply crossed-references the ones that they for legal (or otherwise) shouldn't call, then the telemarketers who all sit in basically automated stations, end up just calling the "good" numbers. Different teams get different chunks of the numbers, but all the calls they're supposed to be doing, are supposed to not be on any of the do-not-call lists already.
The telemarketers themselves are told to basically hang up and mark the number as "do not call" if anyone picks up and says/mentions the name of lists. Most companies I knew from then took the lists seriously since their mechanism is based on actual laws in the countries, and evidently since I nor the people I enrolled in these lists receive marketing calls, the companies today takes them equally seriously.
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Not true. DND works great in India. You can also report a spam call or an SMS and your mobile network provider has to provide a resolution. They usually do it by banning that abusing number. DND is available both on Android and iOS.
But don't they just "call" from a different number? Or a random number each time? There's no real verification on the number being called from - its specified _by_ the caller a lot of the time. So unless the phone company starts banning phone companies that don't enforce correct caller id, it won't do anything.
But it evidently does do something, since now it's confirmed in these threads that at least 4 (possibly) more countries do have these lists, and they do work.