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Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by pjmlp »

dimgl wrote: post #290
SBArbeit wrote: post #120

Easy workaround for this: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar to get a Start Menu icon for the page. 4. Delete the in-box Weather app icon. Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM, with no ads. It's not as nice as a native app, of course, but it's 1000% better than the useless ads and MSN feed that you can't…

> Easy workaround for this Wipe Windows from your machine. Use Arch Linux. Problem solved.

Doesn't help if in the end most GUI applications even on Linux, are Electron junk like this weather app, as this lack of respect for the user is everywhere.

"I know web, I deliver packaged web".

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by bjoli »

mrheosuper wrote: post #321

As embedded guy, sometime i wonder what those web devs are doing. A simple app that consumes multiple magnitude more RAM than the entire system i usually working with(~1MB). I assume it just does some HTTP query and render it on the screen, why the heck 1GB of RAM ?

I spent some time this morning thinking I was wasting memory using an immutable vector type in c# (RRB tree). It made things a lot easier and probably safer, but it ended up using about 1 MB more memory and "wasting" a couple of hundred ns. Then I read about stuff like this and I feel better about myself.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by mrheosuper »

vel0city wrote: post #96
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do all visual aspects of a weather app need to be loaded at once? Is the cost penalty loading a hundred kilobytes per image from disk really unacceptable?

And then people complain about how unresponsive applications are, all these little stutters as things pop in.

Our storage can transfer Gigabytes of data, do hundred thousand operations every second. The hardware is more than capable. If your software stutter when streaming few hundred KBs of data, it's on you.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by userbinator »

SirMaster wrote: post #361
WarmWash wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI writes code like that, but people get pretty upset hearing it. The program that I use to manage my small business, basically a GUI wrapper on an sql DB is a total delight to use, because everything happens instantly . Even opening it is instantaneous. Modern software is such a bloated mess that you kind of get used to a 20 second start-up and a .25-1 second delay on every action. Then you use something that isn't…

What happens if you keep asking AI to rewrite it to use less and less resources?

This: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49226923

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by FridgeSeal »

pjmlp wrote: post #401
dimgl wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Easy workaround for this Wipe Windows from your machine. Use Arch Linux. Problem solved.

Doesn't help if in the end most GUI applications even on Linux, are Electron junk like this weather app, as this lack of respect for the user is everywhere. "I know web, I deliver packaged web".

Yeah but instead of “hostile OS, hostile applications, subpar applications”, you can reduce it to just “occasionally subpar applications”.

Getting off a hostile OS should be such an obvious choice we oughtn’t need to specify it, but here we are.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by userbinator »

boudin wrote: post #388
mrheosuper wrote: post #321

As embedded guy, sometime i wonder what those web devs are doing. A simple app that consumes multiple magnitude more RAM than the entire system i usually working with(~1MB). I assume it just does some HTTP query and render it on the screen, why the heck 1GB of RAM ?

More and more parts of the windows eco-system is now generated by AI and reviewed by AI, humans are only involved in testing (source is a familly member who works for microsoft). Not sure if it's the case for this app, but there might be no dev to blame here.

There's probably multiple devs, which is part of the problem.

Ironically AI could likely do better than this if prompted right.

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by mort96 »

anonymars wrote: post #349
mort96 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because a big picture looks pretty sometimes? Not sure what you think "having an SVG renderer in memory" means exactly, typically the way an SVG renderer works is that you give it a huge chunk of memory and ask it to draw pixel data there from the SVG file. So even though the SVG is small on disk, rendering a 1000x1000 image from an SVG is gonna need a 1000x1000x3 byte pixel buffer (assuming no transparency or HDR sh…

> 1000x1000x3 Cool, that's 3 MB

Which, if you'll do the math, is more than a few kB

Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM

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Post by Alifatisk »

brokenmachine wrote: post #376
asdfman123 wrote: post #363

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There's a bunch of other requirements you need to meet and no one cares about RAM consumption. So you do it the most time efficient way, not the most memory efficient. Before you scorn, doing it the opposite way, taking more to use less memory, makes you less promotable, not more.

And this is why Windows will have it's lunch eaten by Linux.

I’ve read this sentence for more than a decade now.
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