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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by 05 »

xoa wrote: post #260
philistine wrote: post #42

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It was literally the first specific announcement they made after they finished their introductions. Not anything iPhone related; they announced that Liquid Glass on macOS would move towards the older design. Goes to show that a year of anybody with any sort of clout complaining about the thousand little cuts of Liquid Glass on macOS will get a company to respond. That and the guy who announced it last year fled to Fa…

> shows just how bad it was > Goes to show that a year of anybody with any sort of clout complaining about the thousand little cuts of Liquid Glass on macOS will get a company to respond. Worth remembering too that this isn't merely about "complaints", Apple has significant metrics on the rates at which users are upgrading to a new OS, or not. You can opt-out of sharing that data, but a lot of people (even technical…

Opt out all you want do you really think Apple doesn't know what OS version hits their APIs?

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by 05 »

dijit wrote: post #386
xoa wrote: post #260

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> shows just how bad it was > Goes to show that a year of anybody with any sort of clout complaining about the thousand little cuts of Liquid Glass on macOS will get a company to respond. Worth remembering too that this isn't merely about "complaints", Apple has significant metrics on the rates at which users are upgrading to a new OS, or not. You can opt-out of sharing that data, but a lot of people (even technical…

not just that, people keeping to older OS’s will actively avoid converting to new hardware sales.. I did not upgrade my laptop because it would come with the latest OS- I am not alone.

The other side of it is forced obsolescence where new OS makes your existing hardware slower. So I wouldn't upgrade my phone beyond iOS18.x purely for performance reasons but if there's a killer feature in a new iPhone I would still consider buying it because its hardware was built to handle the new effects and extra ram it needs.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by numpad0 »

xiaoyu2006 wrote: post #311
xnx wrote: post #272

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> Apple very rarely admits mistakes. Probably the best reversion was getting rid of the butterfly keyboard and bringing back ports after Jony Ive was gone.

I hope they redesign their magic mouse. It's not a real product.

obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMX2cQdPubk&t=737s

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by jmyeet »

thewebguyd wrote: post #242

In case anyone missed it, Apple's dropping support for Watch Series 6/7/8/9 and the Ultra 1 with this release. The 9 isn't even 3 years old yet until September, absolutely garbage support timeline for a wearable. I have a Series 9, and it's still essentially like new. edit Seems this was an error on Apple's part, all watches that support 26 should get 27

Yeah, I'm shocked at this [1]. The Series 9 was released in September 2023, not quite 3 years old. Apple is normally very good with long-term support. This is surprising to say the least. I bought a 10 last year when it was current-gen and it's going to be the minimum supported Watch with the next version of Watch OS? WTF? At least I'm glad I did that rather than repalcing a battery on an even older Watch.

iPads aren't free from this either but it's a little less severe [2]. For example, iPad Air 4th gen will be the minimum iPad Air and it was released in 2020. The M1 iPad Pro was released in 2021 and will be the minimum there.

[1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/08/watchos-27-drops-suppor...

j2]: https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/08/ipados-27-drops-support...

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by thewebguyd »

Melatonic wrote: post #400
thewebguyd wrote: post #327

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So is Microsoft, albeit a bit late to the party. Taskbar now movable, performance improvements hitting insider builds, MS BUILD half about WSL containers, native coreutils, a dev edition of windows using Winget config to strip all the bloat out, all new system dialogs replacing a good chunk of the old Win32 stuff, WinUI reactor, ability to remove AI models & Copilot from the OS, etc. Classic case of the reality disto…

Wait - what is the dev edition of windows?

Edition is probably a bit generous (although that's the verbiage they used at the BUILD conference), but its a set of winget configs (works like Ansible) to disable a bunch of stuff, install WSL, starship, coreutils, node, python, whatever other SDKs you want, etc. with one command. https://github.com/microsoft/WindowsDeveloperConfig

I believe they used the word edition because they plan on offering W365 cloud VMs with this config pre applied.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by FireBeyond »

chasd00 wrote: post #86
ACCount37 wrote: post #70

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Not by much. ChatGPT alone is among the most popular apps ever made, and it's available both inside and outside Apple's walled garden. Letting it reach audience in countries where Apple doesn't have much of a foothold. I do wonder if new Siri is any good though. Apple used to be a genuine AI leader, but they totally sleepwalked through LLM revolution, and Siri's response quality was a sad joke for a while now. Did th…

> they totally sleepwalked through LLM revolution I don't think so, i don't think they want to be in the LLM laboratory business. They just want to leverage the technology to make money not invent it. Hence the reason why they made a deal with Google to license Gemini, let OpenAI and Anthropic fight it out while Apple just keeps making sales. I think they're betting that in the long run LLMs become a commodity more o…

Let's be very real about Siri... it is a sad implementation of what has a lot of potential.

Talking to my HomeKit, turning on and off lights, sometimes, other times, "I don't know what lights you are talking about", "I can't find those lights" even though they're visible and reachable and controllable about the app.

"Do X" "Okay", "Do [very very similar synonym for X]" "I don't know what you're talking about."

CarPlay and Siri, unless you make sure permissions match, with CarPlay giving you navigation, press the Speech button, "Find me the nearest Starbucks." "I'm sorry, I don't know where you are".

It has nothing to do with "not being in the LLM laboratory business". I get, and agree with that. But Siri has been around for 14 years at this point and is barely more than a simple voice control for alarm clocks and timers and "play music", at this point.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by officeplant »

memco wrote: post #393
officeplant wrote: post #338

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This is my biggest concern. I've only stuck with Apple during this AI nonsense era because the parental/screentime controls allow to me completely shut it down, and I've never toggled it on in the Siri/AI options. It took a while but the 7GB they initially stole from me for the AI nonsense I'm not using eventually cleared itself out of storage. I already have Siri limited to manual activation only. If they force all…

I didn't see it touched on, but I'm hoping improved storage management is included in the update. My system has > 20% storage used by "system storage" and in total nearly half the device storage is used by ios and is outside my control. Supposedly some of this stuff is just cache data and there's no way to adjust what data gets cached or when it gets purged aside from rebooting. Handling for large files is also hit o…

Yeah file management in general is still incredibly rough around the edges. I would still like to be able to simply grab files from my phone via a connected linux computer, but apple will never let me have that one.

>no way to adjust what data gets cached or when it gets purged aside from rebooting

Unfortunately the only current ways to pull this off is to either artificially move the current time years forward so it hits a time gate and dumps the cached files, or use enough space on your iPhone to force it to dump the useless cached files then delete whatever you used to take up space temporarily.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by tamimio »

I don’t agree with the whole kids “safety”, if your child is too young they shouldn’t be using such electronics without direct supervision in the first place, ie you sitting with them, and if you don’t have some time to be with your child you shouldn’t have children to start with. If your child however is able to comprehend conversations, the parenting should be based on trust and communication, rather than further surveillance and control.

This is bad and mostly will result in two outcomes: a more systematic domestication to groom the child into accepting such surveillance from a higher authority, so later in life they are more susceptible to be monitored by employers or even the government, just like how schools domesticate people to be a cog in the machine later in life. The other outcome, is a complete radical shift where that kid goes on doing anything and everything as soon as they are in their own.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by analogpixel »

I read through a summary of what was announced today, and I don't really want/care about any of it. The biggest apple announcement today that I was excited about, and would tell other people about was https://lowtechguys.com/musicdecoy/

I have an older iPhone that can't run any of this new stuff, and I'm not upgrading because I have no reason to. I think I actually prefer at this point to be on an older phone that won't get all of this.

When is technology going to get exciting and fun again?

(that's not 100% true, I was excited to hear they were walking back liquid glass.)

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