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Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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Its capitalist 'social media' thats the problem. Doctorow's enshittification case study was exactly about Facebook and Instagram.

However, you go to Mastodon, Pixelfed, or Lemmy and things are dramatically better. Well, no, not just better, but completely refreshing. You friend people and what you get is a cronological feed. No algorithm bullshit, no gamification, no adverts snuck in.

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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Comment threads are not “social media”, no matter how badly anyone wants to redefine that they are. They date back to the 1970s on USENET and mailing lists.

Why do people argue so hard on semantics? Its social media in some ways and its not in others

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Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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> if you think What do you think social media is? What are the clear criteria that make something social media, or make it not social media? If you know HN is not social media that you have a clear demarcation of what is.

>What are the clear criteria that make something social media I have no idea why people are making some mysterious deep question out of this, wikipedia quite literally offers a definition[1]. Web 2.0 based platforms, user generated content, social networking including social mechanisms such as followers, groups and lists. This doesn't apply to HN. You could randomly assign everyone a new name tomorrow and it wouldn't…

> This doesn't apply to HN. You could randomly assign everyone a new name tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. Identity is virtually irrelevant here

This is wildly untrue. I follow specific people here and I recognize names all the time. It would be super confusing if some of the people I'm interested in hearing from completely different names. And comments are content. I read old threads all the time. If that all went away, a huge part of how I use this site would be gone.

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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The historic reason attitudes towards immigration changes is because of scale. This [1] page has a nice graph of the foreign born US population. Towards the end of the 19th century it hit 14.8% which led to significant pushback that culminated in various laws and acts against immigration. That's precisely where the paperwork started to form. Following those acts and laws, immigration declined to a valley of 4.7% fore…

> history is, as always, not just repeating, but practically plagiarizing itself Every time in US history that there's been an influx of immigrants, there were people spouting essentially identical arguments to the ones they're spouting now (stealing jobs, lack of assimilation, etc.), and every time it's turned out to be basically a non-issue in the long run. I've long had the opinion that most of the people vehement…

What would you say to somebody who simply feels their quality of life has been lowered (vs. somebody “spouting essentially identical arguments”)?

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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Because the people who say this like HN and dislike Facebook and their post-hoc rationalizations are transparent.

HN and Facebook are entirely different beasts. I have no idea who you are, stickfigure. I can't remember usernames from HN, I can't follow people, I can't curate my feed not every user submitted feed with upvotes is the same

You can literally go to a users profile and bookmark it. You are following them.

You cannot curate your feed on Facebook. You used to, sure. Now it's just whatever they give you.

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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post #380

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> history is, as always, not just repeating, but practically plagiarizing itself Every time in US history that there's been an influx of immigrants, there were people spouting essentially identical arguments to the ones they're spouting now (stealing jobs, lack of assimilation, etc.), and every time it's turned out to be basically a non-issue in the long run. I've long had the opinion that most of the people vehement…

What would you say to somebody who simply feels their quality of life has been lowered (vs. somebody “spouting essentially identical arguments”)?

I would need more details to understand what they mean by that

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

#407

Social media is now exactly what cable television used to be, but worse; it exists solely to coerce you. You make you feel insecure, you leverage your emotions for someone else's aims. Due to the changes in technology, social media is far more effective at this than cable TV ever could be, but the concept is the same. It's some remote person attempting to manipulate you by also packaging something enticing along with…

The product is you?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FQbW31Fa4SM

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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post #260

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I think the "nothing I can do will change anything" is actually a predominant theme that's emerged over the past decade. I don't know if you've watched any of Adam Curtis' documentaries, but his documentary HyperNormalisation explores this in great detail (most of this documentaries have a similar theme I've found). Edit: Apologies, I think I mean his documentary: Can't Get You Out of My Head. Essentially it asserts…

Night Watch (2002), by Terry Pratchett. > People on the side of The People always ended up disappointed, in any case. They found that The People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient. The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't…

My favorite quote from any novel comes from that book as well;

"Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes."

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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If you're on Android, you can use revanced to patch social network apps, to, among other things, remove content from non-friends (and ads). It's scary how empty the feed is once you do this. It can be full days with the same post at the top. And the worst part is that I hadn't noticed how empty it was until I did the change.

Probably use Morphe now: https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedextended/comments/1q20ga5/w...

Re: Anti-social: It's fads, not friends, which now dominate social media feeds

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post #189

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> trip also knows where I live and vice versa. Do those people also have access to your travel schedule? Mine don't. Maybe you're just not as globally social as me? I've lived in 5 different countries and have friends all over the world and in probably 20 different US states that I can name off the top of my head. Do I have close friends that I regularly contact? Do I send them a message when I'm in town to see if th…

> It seems bizarre to me that you only limit yourself to these people. I regularly try to meet up with people I don't know super well but want to get them or their city better. Social media has absolutely helped facilitate this. It’s bizarre to me that you can’t find enough people locally to be inundated in events (unless you live somewhere remote, which is an aspect of social media I hadn’t considered). I don’t even…

Yeah I agree with this. It's great being social in your community because those are the people you routinely run into periodically. It makes relationships easier to maintain too, especially when you're just a walk away from people. The cost to maintain these things (time + energy) are extremely low when everything is local.
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