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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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I know its going to cause angst, but the net we knew of is dead. The incentives to keep it the way it used to be are gone. AI is cheap, and it sounds better than what a majority of users write. Humans adapt. Maybe we shift from communites and moderation, to predefined rules of engagement. If a commenter can follow some pre agreed upon rules of debate, then it doesn't matter if they are silicon or not. We went from a…

We can go a level higher - reasoning as we know it might be dead.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. I replied that it had nothing to do with my question and everything there was wrong. A minute later he sent me another ChatGPT screenshot. He didn’t even read the AI’s answer. That's just rude and borderline psychotic behavior. It's still a bit better at my workplace bu…

The 'AI-generated pseudo-spec' is becoming a massive productivity killer. Non-technical managers prompt an LLM, get a highly confident 5-page document with chosen libraries, and think they've done 80% of the work. But as a developer, you now have to spend hours debugging and debunking hallucinated architectures just to prove why the AI's approach doesn't fit the existing codebase. It completely shifts the burden of actual product management into AI-babysitting for the dev team.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#404

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Absolutely. But I’m afraid people are forced to do this because management wants to see AI usage otherwise they’re gonna go on the chopping block. Leadership is ultimately to blame.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them. I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first. EDIT: By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover…

LMGTFY is an ironic jab, not a suggestion. > if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first It's actually the other way around. You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Why do you think I am asking - because I think you have a better answer than I can get from Google or AI. But this is where it's apparently going. We will all talk to AI rather than each other. And we will…

I think a lot of people are also missing the value-add of asking a person to Google something for you.

Some large fraction of the time when someone asks me a question, I also end up googling it... and then I use my domain knowledge and experience to weed out bad information and outdated information and identify the right references.

And some fraction of the time when I ask someone else an "easily Google-able question", I've googled the question, found a number of sources, maybe even one I think might be right, but want some confirmation that I'm not going down a rabbit hole.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#406

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

What I hate about this whole thing, is that there are many reasons someone might reach out to a coworker with questions. Not all require the knowledge in fancy markdown with emojis. Maybe they want to show respect to a person by asking their opinion before proceeding with a change Maybe they want to share context and make that person aware of what they're thinking without being so obvious Maybe they need _that person…

I attribute people returning AI answers to a desire to feel valued and to feel that they contribute something to the person asking the question. But they are not self-aware or confident enough to understand that they should preface the AI response with:

"Interesting question, I asked Claude that question, and here's what I got for a response. Here's what I thought was interesting about Claude's response and what I think applies. What do you think?

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#408

I hate to say it, but I'm becoming less and less interested in structured content, and more interested in disorganized, messy content over time. I don't like the thought of how this may end up in a few years for me.

This ^. The moment I open an article/post and see subtitles in *bold*, emojis everywhere and/or symmetric paragraphs, I start to suspect instantly whether it's AI.

> more interested in disorganized, messy content over time

Same, that kind of content kinda forces me to use my brain (yeah.. sounds obvious..) to organize the message, understand it, agree/disagree, and actually CONSUME the content, like the old days..

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve encountered this regularly. I love to learn. I never want to stop learning. Apparently, I’m in a minority. I have often offered to work with folks, and teach them how to develop shipping software. This is something I’m actually fairly good at, having done it, my entire career. I’m retired, now, but continue to develop shipping software. I often offer to do so, with others, so they can learn in an actual producti…

Meta: This is why HN attracts curious people. They are rare. Finding and hiring them is hard. The forum cultivates for them, like gardeners tending a garden for pollinators. My best tip for hiring has always been "Hire curious people with a proven ability to build, get out of their way, and retain them as long as you can by meeting their professional expectations (comp, work experience, meaningful work, broadly speak…

Thanks for that link.

I think one of my advantages has been, that I’m a high school dropout, with a GED. I never took a matriculated college course.

Almost all of my education has been practicum. I learn by do.

Having to direct my own education has been both liberating and exhausting.

I haven’t had any “tracks,” since I was 16.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#410
Its happening with me too since around a year. When I ask a solution from one of my senior he just reply by pasting the response from ChatGPT. Now I have stopped asking him.

I also ask ChatGPT sometimes when a junior ask for a solution, but I always explain him in my own words.

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