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MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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HN is completely out of touch with this laptop. No one cares about any of this analysis they just want a cheap Mac. This has sold so much that the A19 processor is having problems to being sourced . Also 8gb is good enough for the target market.

M4 24gb screen broke after just 6 months. Back to m1, just 8gb*. It sometimes hang for a second or two, but you know what. I'm happy with it. That's when I have 38 tabs, two IDEs and try to grep some text on VS code.

Did you buy it used ? Why wouldn’t it be under warrantee. This is a new Mac sale still not an upgrade path .

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Eight gigabytes is orders of magnitude more than an OS could ever use, or even the pre-installed software. It's web browsers and the software that uses them that occupy all the RAM, and those are usually made by third parties. Open a few news web pages, and run Discord, Slack, VS Code, etc, and you'll quickly run out of RAM.

Apple is no stranger to using a web browser for basic OS functionality. Several pages in the settings app are actually WebKit, source: https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/inspecting-web-views-in-ma...

Is that why settings search has been broken for years across iOS and macOS?

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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I guess for $126 you mean just display itself? Not complete assembly? If so this is like an option for like super skilled 1% of 1% of us who repair their devices. I obviously checked repair videos and just disassembling top part almost impossible without destroying everything except for aluminum cover. Doing it properly on first try is well beyond my skills. On top of it there is always risk of getting damaged part c…

Complete assembly. Wouldn't call it trivial, but not super hard either. I wouldn't dream of doing this without the complete assembly, not worth the hassle. You run the risk of ruining something, but for me the reasoning was that worst case I'd still have a conputer I can attach to an external monitor. Replacement itself is mostly removing screws and cables carefully - followed the ifixit guide.

It looks like you got some amazing deal even if it worse display because even in Indonesia I can't find options cheaper than $200.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Complete hogwash, of course. Tahoe is running just fine for me and for nearly hundred of my co-workers. People complain about the strangest things too, like the corners of windows. I am resizing a hundred times a day and it works fine.

please. I was an early adopter of sequoia and the firewall/crowdstrike corrupting packets was something else. scarred for life.

Okay sorry to hear that. Sounds like Crowdstrike sucked for many reasons, then. I have never ran it or even seen that myself.

The OS however I have used for 23 years. I know it quite well and it's robust.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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I've had similar issues with microSD in a variety of adapters. I think the core issue is most microSD cards just aren't built, in terms of thermals, for sustained writes. In most devices they're either read-heavy loads or burst-y writes. When you stick them in a warm laptop and do a lot of writes they overheat and start throwing errors. For many cards their drive controller might advertise and support higher UHS spee…

I've read the same, but for me, a newly-formatted microSD will overheat as soon as it's plugged into the MBP. The OS may be reading/writing something to cause that, but it's automated as part of the mounting process from what I've seen.

You can try 'sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/microSDCardName' which will disable Spotlight indexing on it. While a Spotlight index of an empty disk shouldn't cause overheating...there's bugs somewhere in the chain. To say nothing of quality issues on the cards themselves. I often use an app called Disk Arbitrator[0] to mount disks read-only or block automounts when I'm dealing with SD cards because of overheating issues.

[0] https://github.com/aburgh/Disk-Arbitrator

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Apple makes unbelievably good hardware and software that just lasts and just works. Until it’s 7 years old. After that you essentially have to chuck it as you don’t get any updates from Apple and slowly you descend into incompatibility unless you world exists in browser. I wish once you bought an Apple computer it was truly yours for as long as you wanted it instead of it being dictated by Apple. Still Great computer…

My 2019 MacBook Pro (the last year of Intel) is now 7 years old and runs "frustratingly" well ("frustrating" in the sense that I can't justify replacing it yet, despite how badly I want to get a new one!)

I was in the same boat. I was also one of the weird folks that like the touch bar. I've had my M5 Pro MBP for just over a week now. It's insane how much better it is than the i9 I had. I have a Rust/SwiftUI project that I swear was taking 2 minutes to do a clean build on that Intel machine, that takes about 3 seconds on this new one. I've used it for over 14 hours of heavy development work and have charged it ONCE. Yes, my wallet wasn't happy, but I am, like actually giggling happy. I don't want to make you feel like you should upgrade, but come on in, the water's fine. :D

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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M4 24gb screen broke after just 6 months. Back to m1, just 8gb*. It sometimes hang for a second or two, but you know what. I'm happy with it. That's when I have 38 tabs, two IDEs and try to grep some text on VS code.

M1 air, 16gb, second hand, 200 bucks, 200+ tabs in brave, photoshop, illustrator and premiere and kicad and sublime and chrome with one tab watching a youtube live stream. Plus text edit, notes and prolly some more apps. Works fine, zero hitch.. maybe too good for my own good.

Goat. I suppose 16GB does make a difference. Or it's VS Code/ium.

Sublime is sublime.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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keep in mind that installing thermal pad will void warranty. Source: apple store staff

No idea why is this getting downvoted.

I literally went to an Apple Store the other day after every influencer released their video on yt claiming that it's a great computer, you just have to install the pad in less than 3 minutes and it will work like a charm...

So I asked the salesperson about that and they told I'm not allowed to tamper with the device and it will void the warranty.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Still baffles the mind that Apple solved this issue some 20+ years ago, and others _still_ haven't. I remember being basically surrounded by jet engines running Word in school. A few years ago in an old job I got a monster-specced Dell laptop, and it would still roar if I opened anything. I had to pull all the nerf tricks through the BIOS to at least keep it somewhat tolerable in low-load scenarios (i.e. most of the…

> Apple solved this issue some 20+ years ago All the i7/i9 Macbook pros that I used back in the day were obnoxiously load. Even when not under particularly heavy load.

Agree. The i9 went full fans as soon as I fired up docker. The arm based macs are an entirely different beast.
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