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Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by nicoburns »

albedoa wrote: post #371
nicoburns wrote: post #295

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Ah, you are correct. I thought a renewal was only required for a new major version after 3 years. But it's actually any update after 3 years. Which is still pretty reasonable (but not quite such a good deal)!

I also thought that it was perpetual. Maybe they changed it. Either way, the three-year subscription is news to me.

It's perpetual for the version you buy. 3 years of updates.

And tbh, Sublime Text is pretty stable and the kind of program you could probably get away without updating for some time if you wanted to. Things like LSP support are in 3rd party packages (that are open source, not subject to the license), so you'd get updates for those anyway.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by LinXitoW »

nomel wrote: post #384
aljaz823 wrote: post #380

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I understand that differently. The last part of the statement is important I think. It reads as if this grants them the right to "Process" "Customer Data": 1. to perform its obligations, including support obligations, 2. to perform telemetry, 3. when required by law. This is sensible, no?

> when required by law Suggests there's a longer term storage, available for hackers.

There doesn't have to be storage, NSA could always just force them to add it in later without telling you. Like every single USA company.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by throwa356262 »

rstat1 wrote: post #357
throwa356262 wrote: post #45

Zed seems to have many fans on HN. But it is not for me. Multiple issues on Linux and high memory usage makes it a worse alternative to vscode and jetbrains. Maybe it's better on OSX, but I dont use that anymore and why use an editor that treats your platform as a second class citizen?

So I'm not so sure how you arrived at your conclusion of Zed having higher memory use than VSCODE but in testing just now that's not at all close to true. Zed for me on my Linux machine opened to a massive C++ project (the Ladybird browser if you were curious) is (not including LSP or extension processes) using around 480MB of memory. VSCode on the other hand with nothing open but a 20 line JSON file is (again not in…

If editors own memory usage is your main concern then you should use emacs or even better mg or vi.

The editor + its plugins + it's LSP server is what counts. I dont care if zed is written in rust and uses 400MB when it spawns a multi GB nodejs process when I work on my tiny golang project.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by tecoholic »

Meekro wrote: post #90
masklinn wrote: post #79

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> My code (which works fine) looks like an ocean of red when I view it with Zed, and turning all those warnings off is not trivial. Isn't it just the default configuration of whatever LSP zed defaults to for PHP? So you should be able to either configure the LSP to avoid that or disable the LSP server entirely.

Coming from Sublime, I'd never even heard of a Language Server when I first tried Zed. As I recall, disabling particular kinds of warnings required copy-pasting some pretty exotic incantations into my project config. All of it was poorly documented, and it felt like I was doing something nobody expected me to do. Instead, I should have been able to mouse over a particular warning and say "don't warn me again about th…

If you have never used an LSP and don’t need it, you can just turn the LSP off. I do it from the UI (thunderbolt icon on bottom bar I think) for some projects which don’t have LSP typing support. There should also be a setting to turn off permanently.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by DangitBobby »

Groxx wrote: post #299
Meekro wrote: post #90

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Coming from Sublime, I'd never even heard of a Language Server when I first tried Zed. As I recall, disabling particular kinds of warnings required copy-pasting some pretty exotic incantations into my project config. All of it was poorly documented, and it felt like I was doing something nobody expected me to do. Instead, I should have been able to mouse over a particular warning and say "don't warn me again about th…

Yeah, I really can't stand every vscode has done to the ecosystem for settings. JSON as a storage format for config is entirely fine, but it's a truly awful UX for changing things. But they're successful and it's easy to build, so everyone mindlessly copies them.

Zed is highly configurable via JSON (so already puts them in a tier above many editors) and also for some things like shortcuts provides an actual interface for editing that JSON. I imagine as time goes on they'll expose more interfaces for editing configurations. For now I'll take JSON over nothing/gui-only.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by spockz »

Groxx wrote: post #299
Meekro wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coming from Sublime, I'd never even heard of a Language Server when I first tried Zed. As I recall, disabling particular kinds of warnings required copy-pasting some pretty exotic incantations into my project config. All of it was poorly documented, and it felt like I was doing something nobody expected me to do. Instead, I should have been able to mouse over a particular warning and say "don't warn me again about th…

Yeah, I really can't stand every vscode has done to the ecosystem for settings. JSON as a storage format for config is entirely fine, but it's a truly awful UX for changing things. But they're successful and it's easy to build, so everyone mindlessly copies them.

Mind you that vscode does have an ui to change the settings. Also it has code completion when editing the json because of the linked json schema.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by lifty »

Now that Zed supports remote development, I really hope they can release it for tablets (iOS/Android) so that we can use it as a client for a remote development machine. That would be delightful!
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