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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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cenamus wrote: post #336
netbsdusers wrote: post #331

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Plan 9 implements some sort of "everything has a directory entry" concept. Sockets are files already in Unix. "Everything is a file" in Unix means they have a uniform treatment as file descriptors. Its perfection is probably in Capsicum where when you create a new process, you get a process file descriptor referring to it instead of a PID.

Sockets really aren't files im Unix though, you don't create them with (f)open, and you don't read/write with (f)read/(f)write

You do read sockets with read/write, that's the point of saying 'everything is a file'. You can basically can do read/write/close on things that are a socket.

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somat wrote: post #373
cenamus wrote: post #336

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Sockets really aren't files im Unix though, you don't create them with (f)open, and you don't read/write with (f)read/(f)write

As much as I like bsd I think the socket interface is their biggest failure, don't get me wrong, the socket interface is not bad, it is an amazing accomplishment that most of the internet is based on. The reason I regard it as a failure is because it is so close but not quite touching. A core unix idea is to have a single namespace registry and a simple universal api(open, seek, read, write, close) to access resource…

> but they failed to close the loop and shipped an api that did not match the core unix api.

What exactly is the thing, that you think is lacking, though?

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rhet0rica wrote: post #175
layer8 wrote: post #144

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We are still missing "Windows Subsystem for Copilot".

Never understood this about Windows Subsystem for Linux naming, nor its predecessor Windows Services for Unix. Surely Linux is the subsystem running on Windows? Should we now reinterpret Windows for Workgroups as a means of astrally projecting your organization inside Windows 3.11?! The dative only works ONE way, Microsoft! I guess they really just didn't want a product name to start with the name of a competitor's p…

It's the subsystem of X for Y. The US department for health is not a medicine product called 'department' produced by 'US'.

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rusk wrote: post #328
dataflow wrote: post #246

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I believe you're almost entirely wrong unfortunately. It is true that Windows has subsystems as a technical feature, yes. However, I don't think it's true that WSL (v1, let alone v2) was part of that architecture, despite the name. AFAIK that existing subsystem notion was a user-mode one, where each subsystem was built mostly in user-mode on top of the NT ("native") subsystem, with binaries in the PE format. WSL just…

It needs an apostrophe then it makes more sense “Windows’ Subsystem for Linux” It is a Windows Subsystem, that caters to running Linux. It’s a functional title not an architectural one.

Subsystem isn't used as a random English word here, "Windows Subsystem" is already a fixed term. So you wouldn't introduce a possessive relation into the term when using it.

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1718627440 wrote: post #404
rusk wrote: post #328

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It needs an apostrophe then it makes more sense “Windows’ Subsystem for Linux” It is a Windows Subsystem, that caters to running Linux. It’s a functional title not an architectural one.

Subsystem isn't used as a random English word here, "Windows Subsystem" is already a fixed term. So you wouldn't introduce a possessive relation into the term when using it.

Indeed, I was trying to make it easier for you.

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slaymaker1907 wrote: post #99
rr808 wrote: post #57

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I work in big financials. Everything used to be built on Excel. A lot still is but Python/Jupyterhub or custom applications has taken over a lot of the complex stuff. Excel isn't really essential any more.

While less necessary with AI, Excel is still the king of data entry and basic data manipulation (sorting, filtering, updating, etc.). I’d say that SQLite with a GUI for visualization is a far stronger competitor than Jupyter at those sorts of things. You can do that stuff in Jupyter, but it’s easier in Excel. Jupyter also has a janky execution model. It doesn’t track dependencies so you have to be very careful in how…

Yeah, I thought an application that works like Excel, but instead of "infinite" grids you get to declare finite rows/columns with types. Extending and inserting rows feels like a non-issue. This would also enable to have multiple tables on a single view. It's essentially a merge of Excel and SQL.
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