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Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by kelnos »

pafje wrote: post #369
czbond wrote: post #257

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As a gent born and raised in Texas, and has never seen the show - I am pleasantly surprised to see these comments about how popular WTR was internationally. If I had been asked to bet, I would have lost money on this one.

As others have said, WTR is very well-known in France while most people have never heard of Seinfeld. Same with Dallas and The Dukes of Hazzard.

Assuming this sort of phenomenon extends further than France, this quite well explains many of the misconceptions Europeans have about the US.

Thinking WTR, Dallas, or TDoH are representative of American culture is... hilarious.

But I guess shows that hit the big American cultural stereotypes hard are maybe the ones that do better abroad?

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by pesus »

teeray wrote: post #389
maerF0x0 wrote: post #366

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> 500 lb barbell curls ?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-2-oV5vk8q/?igsh=MWFtZmR5MHl... EDIT: acknowledged. fake.

He forgot to actually curl it. Like someone else said, the weights are almost certainly not actually 500lbs. Even elite bodybuilders and strongmen in their prime don't come close to curling 500lbs, let alone an old man.

Looking at the video, if it was legitimate, it would be 585lbs (6 45lb plates on each side plus a 45lb bar), which is even less believable.

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by karel-3d »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #139
petcat wrote: post #86

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> would he be remembered anywhere as well? You underestimate how popular Walker, Texas Ranger was. It wasn't pulling ratings like Seinfeld, ER, or Friends, but it was a solid primetime staple for almost a decade. I never watched it myself, but the 50+ demo loved it.

Maybe for people in the US. Internationally? I haven't watched a single episode of WTR, I don't know anyone who has, but everyone knows who Chuck Norris was.

It was very popular here (Czech Republic). Not prime-time popular, but popular enough.

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by boca_honey »

cthalupa wrote: post #394
boca_honey wrote: post #333

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I think Cavill has a fair point - I generally support MeToo, think it was very important, but I can understand how being a fairly big name in Hollywood can result in hesitation around pursuing women. Especially now that he's got a lot of power for a whole franchise, with the Warhammer 40k stuff. Steve Irwin I don't think what he did was a particularly big deal with the kid. I don't really like celebrities as role mod…

Oh I think all of those guys have fair points. I was trying to illustrate how you could make a hero or a villain out of anybody if you cherry pick incidents, decisions or opinions.

Just like the parent comment was trying to do with Chuck Norris. (Which was probably way worse than any of these examples)

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by shdudns »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #337
shdudns wrote: post #222

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He was known to be racist (at least in later life), so a black mourning ribbon wouldn't be appropriate.

Racist? That's new. Because he's conservative?

In the 90s he sued one of his franchisees for defamation of character because they were racist.

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by kelnos »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #144
amjnsx wrote: post #102

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He was openly maga and a homophobe and a transphobe. I wouldn’t consider these qualities for a role model.

I think you forget that Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act and put in the policy of “Don’t ask don’t tell” and Obama supported it originally. Of course they both had a change of heart- was it true change or they saw the direction of the political winds? Who knows? I don’t know Chuck Norris’s views on LGBT. But if he was a self proclaimed “born again Christian” and a rabid Trump supporter, I can only guess. Bu…

My charitable interpretation is that it was political winds, but possibly not in the way you're implying.

I do believe that Obama was 100% cool with gay marriage, but believed it was politically foolhardy to admit that publicly and in policy positions, but was able to advocate for his true feelings once the political climate changed. Still not awesome, but understandable from an electoral perspective.

I'm not really sure about Clinton. I would guess he's personally in favor of gay marriage and gays in the military today, but hard to say what his views might have been in the 90s (as I was a teenager at the time who wasn't all that interested in politics).

Also on supposedly-liberal people doing homophobic things: let's also not forget that California voters banned gay marriage statewide in 2008. 2008! And this was a ballot measure where all voters got a say, not something passed by the legislature.

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Post by riffraff »

flagos10 wrote: post #150
PoignardAzur wrote: post #139

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Maybe for people in the US. Internationally? I haven't watched a single episode of WTR, I don't know anyone who has, but everyone knows who Chuck Norris was.

In France, it was popular enough that everybody knew Texas ranger before the Chuck Norris jokes.

Same in Italy, it was prime time TV for a few years.

Not overly popular, but many people already knew him from the Bruce Lee era, so it had a following by default.

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by cthalupa »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #384
cthalupa wrote: post #379

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None of that changes the fact that the statement that half the country is MAGA because half the country voted for Trump is untrue. Significantly less than half the country voted for Trump. This is objective fact. Significantly less than 100% of Trump voters identify as MAGA. This is objective fact. Approving of Trump as President is also not the same thing as being MAGA, though the overlap is quite likely reasonably…

I gave an analogy earlier that if you have 10 friends and asked them where they wanted to eat dinner and six said let’s get Italian and the other 4 said “Let’s kill Ralph and eat him”, you still have a shitty friend group. If 40% of the country still supports everything that’s going on, that tells you a lot about this country. Especially seeing that because of the 2 Senators per state regardless of population, gerrym…

A surprising amount of people are single issue voters and will vote for and support someone that supports that single issue. They might not care at all about the entire rest of the issues at all as long as their single issue is fine, and a lot of those single issues, like guns, long predate maga or the tea party.

I'm not saying that makes them good people, I'm just saying I don't think it's the same thing as maga.

2 senators per state isn't really the issue, but the cap on the house is. The senate was built to be population independent, and the house was built specifically to be population dependent, where yes if you had more people you had more power. Then they... voted to cap it, because it was going to give too much power to states with more people. Dumb. EV also tied to the house, so uncapping it unfucks a lot of that, too.

Re: Chuck Norris has died

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Post by riffraff »

davidw wrote: post #242
PoignardAzur wrote: post #139

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Maybe for people in the US. Internationally? I haven't watched a single episode of WTR, I don't know anyone who has, but everyone knows who Chuck Norris was.

Seinfeld wasn't at all well known in Italy when I lived there, but WTR was.

IIRC Seinfeld aired on Tele Montecarlo/La 7, while WTR aired on Italia 1, the difference in audience was massive.
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