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US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Why do we want to make the stock market mimic the crypto market? What need is the 24/7 trading solving? Just for hft companies to make more money? Seems like a genuine reason to diversify to Europe and Asian markets

> What need is the 24/7 trading solving?

There's a reason the Black-Scholes model assumes market prices are continuous. The discontinuity of the market makes hedging options a lot more complex and expensive.

24/7 trading doesn't completely fix that, but it does help.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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This is what confuses me about tech sales too. Why do I always get a discount for buying right at the end of the quarter? Seems like you could just get ahead on the next one.

Because of how performance targets are defined. If sales figures “fell” or didn’t grow at the expected rate it can be worse than having a few more points over next quarter.

Why do they define performance targets that way then? Are they making it hard on purpose for some reason?

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That doesn't make any sense because the revenue is already booked for the sale which has nothing to do with when the delivery truck actually arrives.

Cash vs Accrual

How many F500 companies use cash accounting? How many public companies altogether?

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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When you wonder how much damage one person can do in 4 years...

"The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud."

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Help me understand what you are saying here. For those that don't know this one is "a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure". I'm not advocating for a single metric that can be gamed. A business is fundamentally about dollars in and dollars out. Maybe add receivables in there and a few other metrics from the P&L. I'm not trying to be prescriptive here on purely cash in and out. I do think there is…

Dollars/receivables in and dollars/deliverables out is just a question of rate, unless I'm missing something. If a 10 billion dollar company has a per-second dollar out/in rate of $1,000,000 due to actual organic business, a company with $2,000,000 can set up an LLC it buys and sells from, and legally 'swap' $1,000,000 a second back and forth in services "bought and sold" to mimic the appearance of the $10B company,…

When you realize companies can borrow against receivables and payables also....

But it eventually comes out, so while you can do it short-term, it's a terrible long-term strategy. Your stock will eventually crash and burn if you do too much of it.

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Can you enumerate some examples of when it having less information is better than having more?

It’s a common complaint of value investors that boards (especially in this post-Sarbox world) are solely focused on quarterly earnings reports, to the detriment of long term strategy. One way to talk about the added and persistent value of some companies is to note that many of them have powerful, recalcitrant, or somehow anti-quarterly-cadence founders: buffet, zuck, you could make a list.

So, the answer to "when having less information is better" is "when YOU have less information".

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Don't invest in companies that disclose enough information. They aren't banning quarterly reporting, they'd just no longer require it.

there is no F500 company that likes quarterly filing. this is why they've been lobbying for it, and with Trump in power they pushed and got it. once it is gone none of them will do it, or at best will do it half-heartedly for a while. 5 years after its repeal there will be no large company doing it regularly

I'm definitely curious to see what happens

My guess is that most report quarterly, my question is what they report. But we will see.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

> if companies reported dollars in and dollars out live to shareholders at least we would have an idea of how the company is doing in a general sense. A former manager used to run his own company, it was a satellite internet company sometime in the 2000s, they were going into the negative, so they had a big TV in the office, showing everyday what was coming in, and how much they made vs how much they owed. They did i…

Can motivate the employees to jump ship. Often time as an employee you are impacted dis proportionately on the downside than the upside.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Because of how performance targets are defined. If sales figures “fell” or didn’t grow at the expected rate it can be worse than having a few more points over next quarter.

Why do they define performance targets that way then? Are they making it hard on purpose for some reason?

You have to set a deadline at some point. Now, I think any rational manager would agree if the sale shows up on April 1 instead of March 31st, that's totally fine. But HR/Finance systems aren't always rational.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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The company I'm a director for licenses IP from my company. The company wouldn't exist without my IP (I'm one of the founders). Yet, I'm also a customer of the same. Dollars in/out, we're all kosher. This isn't fraud, it's just how companies work.

So long as the prices are fair and reasonable, sure. But that doesn't enable you to run up an arbitrarily large bill without either doing an arbitrary amount of actual work or committing fraud.

Yes. This is called “transfer pricing” and is tightly regulated in almost every country.
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