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Agents that run while I sleep

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Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by arkits »

jhaugh wrote: post #389

I'm running 8 specialized AI agents on a Mac Mini right now. They handle research, content strategy, writing, security audits, code, and visual design. They run on cron schedules, have persistent memory between sessions, and each one improves weekly through self-improvement loops. The cost concern is real but manageable. The key is routing models by task. Complex reasoning gets Opus, routine work gets Sonnet, mechani…

Perhaps have your team look at the header colors on your website https://clelp.com/skill/4da37247-33ee-43ba-a004-0a89d84d3920

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by joegaebel »

anhner wrote: post #357
joegaebel wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found the best way to achieve that is to force the agent to do TDD. Better to get it to do Outside-in TDD. Even better to get it to run Outside-in TDD, then use mutation testing to ensure it has fully covered the logic. I've written about this and have a POC here for those interested: https://www.joegaebel.com/articles/principled-agentic-softwa...

You mean an LLM wrote an article for you. I got bored not even halfway through because it wrote a wall of text but it didn't actually say anything.

Actually, every single word was hand typed. You'll probably notice that in areas where I could improve my grammar. It's understandable that you hit the wall of text and felt a bit dismayed by the length- hence the TLDR at the top and the example repo :)

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by globular-toast »

hi_hi wrote: post #206

This _all_ (waves hands around) sounds like alot of work and expense for something that is meant to make programming easier and cheaper. Writing _all_ (waves hands around various llm wrapper git repos) these frameworks and harnesses, built on top of ever changing models sure doesn't feel sensible. I don't know what the best way of using these things is, but from my personal experience, the defaults get me a looong wa…

"You better work, bitch" -- Britney Spears

Our society is obsessed with work. Work will never end. If things become easier we just do more of them. Whether putting all our efforts into recycling things created by those that came before is good for us will remain to be seen.

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by Aushin »

globular-toast wrote: post #403
hi_hi wrote: post #206

This _all_ (waves hands around) sounds like alot of work and expense for something that is meant to make programming easier and cheaper. Writing _all_ (waves hands around various llm wrapper git repos) these frameworks and harnesses, built on top of ever changing models sure doesn't feel sensible. I don't know what the best way of using these things is, but from my personal experience, the defaults get me a looong wa…

"You better work, bitch" -- Britney Spears Our society is obsessed with work. Work will never end. If things become easier we just do more of them. Whether putting all our efforts into recycling things created by those that came before is good for us will remain to be seen.

Our society is obsessed with work

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by nananana9 »

KronisLV wrote: post #398
brobdingnagians wrote: post #300

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I would encourage my competitors to use AI agents on their codebase as much as possible. Make sure every new feature has it, lots of velocity! Run those suckers day and night. Don't review it, just make sure the feature is there! Then when the music stops, the AI companies hit the economic realities, go insolvent, and they are left with no one who understands a sprawling tangled web of code that is 80% AI generated,…

> they are left with no one who understands a sprawling tangled web of code that is 80% [random people that I can't ask because they don't work here anymore and they didn't care to leave docs or comments] generated, then we'll see who laughs last. Yes, this matches my experience with codebases before AI was a thing.

Yes, but given a feature that should take say 100 lines of code, the average programmer will write in the order of 100 to 500 lines. If they're a heavy OOP user, maybe they'll write 10 classes that total 2000 lines. Regardless, worst case, it will be within ~2 orders of magnitude of a reasonable solution.

It's not that they're not trying to write the biggest clusterfuck possible and maximize suffering in the world, it's just that there's a human limit on how much garbage they can type out in their allocated time.

This is where AI revolutionizes things. You want 25,000 lines of React? On the backend? And a custom useEffect-backed database? Certainly!

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by duskdozer »

mattmanser wrote: post #75
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #63

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The issue I see is that the high test coverage created by having LLMs write tests results in almost all non-trivial changes breaking tests, even if they don't change behavior in ways that are visible from the outside. In one project I work, we require 100% test coverage, so people just have LLMs write tons of tests, and now every change I make to the code base always breaks tests. So now people just ignore broken tes…

I feel it end up a massive drag on development velocity and makes refactoring to simpler designs incredibly painful. But hey, we're just supposed to let the AIs run wild and rewrite everything every change so maybe that's a heretic view.

>simpler designs

Some complex design might just be hacks on hacks, but some are chesterton's fences

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by spiderfarmer »

hi_hi wrote: post #206

This _all_ (waves hands around) sounds like alot of work and expense for something that is meant to make programming easier and cheaper. Writing _all_ (waves hands around various llm wrapper git repos) these frameworks and harnesses, built on top of ever changing models sure doesn't feel sensible. I don't know what the best way of using these things is, but from my personal experience, the defaults get me a looong wa…

It's always the uber conservative and over principled people who laugh about using PHP that have an opinion on everything while not knowing how to get shit done.

They're all just tools. You decide how to use them.

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Post by spiderfarmer »

baq wrote: post #373
jack_pp wrote: post #208

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what in God's Name could you do in PHP that you can't do in a modern framework?

Don’t confuse php the language with php the way of webmaster 2006 vintage.

Those webmasters built the web a lot of people are now nostalgic about already.
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