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Re: Meta acquires Moltbook

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Post by MainlyMortal »

ficklebutquiet wrote: post #400
MainlyMortal wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about and why I'm convinced it's about the metrics/engagement boosting. I don't believe for a second that real people are using chatgpt/others for rewording real thoughts even from another language because those phrases are not natural even in translation. You'll also notice in the original post that that it always ends with a question that encourage replies. If the origi…

I just made an account on this site to tell you that after having a "extreme" epiphany about just how crazy the ai bots are on reddit, I've been constantly researching and trying to find some sort of conclusive answer. This is part theory, part public knowledge, and part auditing (which is fucking hilarious that I audited a module for this). I am absolutely and totally convinced that there is live and active collusio…

It's obvious now that you say it but I never thought about the AI companies themselves doing this for their own benefits like training purposes. It's a perfect testing ground to see what works for engagement and to see what real people want to hear back. The reason is pretty clear in that these AI/chat services have real people as users so logically it makes sense that the better sounding (not necessarily better) results make these users want to keep using. At the risk of sounding like AI... you're right... they may have been trained on old content but they are now using live data for fine tuning and quite frankly manipulation.

I miss the organic conversations and real thoughts from real people. I'm the type of person to read the comments before I read the article etc. It always gives more nuanced but also wildly different takes which I find interesting.

Re: Meta acquires Moltbook

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Post by ficklebutquiet »

MainlyMortal wrote: post #401
ficklebutquiet wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just made an account on this site to tell you that after having a "extreme" epiphany about just how crazy the ai bots are on reddit, I've been constantly researching and trying to find some sort of conclusive answer. This is part theory, part public knowledge, and part auditing (which is fucking hilarious that I audited a module for this). I am absolutely and totally convinced that there is live and active collusio…

It's obvious now that you say it but I never thought about the AI companies themselves doing this for their own benefits like training purposes. It's a perfect testing ground to see what works for engagement and to see what real people want to hear back. The reason is pretty clear in that these AI/chat services have real people as users so logically it makes sense that the better sounding (not necessarily better) res…

Me too my friend. For the record and record's sake only, this is self-theorized and I have not the power, nor the ability, to prove these claims beyond my gut. But as you said, logically (double underline that in your head), from both my own recognition of patterned behavior, and to be honest, from fucking game theory and knowing that people (left unchecked) will naturally squeeze as much juice from the lemon as they can; If I were at a casino, logically and gastrointestinally (gut joke) I would remortgage my own home and drop the deed and keys on the table in order to stake my belief that this is happening. And I fucking hate casinos. Some journalist of much greater reach will hopefully be able to rip back the curtain, but those myopic fuckers have already destroyed trust. We had fun on the playground, we met friends, we learned rumors, we all felt free. But when you find out the jungle gym was greasing the bars on purpose to make us fall, just so they could learn about human bone strength, I doubt you'd visit one again.

And yes, I'd think the value of human to AI dialogue (ironically a single blind study, except the people are blind) is most likely massive. But fomenting? Plus (possible) financial fraud? Woooo boy, what an egregious mistake.

Cheers

Re: Meta acquires Moltbook

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Post by alex1138 »

KaiserPro wrote: post #355
brendanyounger wrote: post #287

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Absolutely. Zuckerberg was willing to burn tens of billions on a metaverse that no one wanted. Staying relevant is worth every penny he spent on Moltbook. We're deep in a repeat of the dot-com boom. The interesting question is what will rise from the ashes and take down old guard of FB, Google, Salesforce, Oracle, etc.

Former facebook acquiree here. The metaverse is what happens when you let your leadership/product team convince you that the key to speed up what you want to deliver is to throw people at the problem, and not put any constraints on deliverables. The original plan for oculus is to establish a VR eco system that would have transitioned into AR glasses, allowing facebook to have a platform of its own. VR was/is a bit ni…

Facebook is a company that doesn't believe in boundaries (seen when Zuck refused to acknowledge the problems with graph search or with gay people being added to groups that outed them by posting on their walls), the CEO is someone with a warped view of people (they trust me, dumb fucks). I have no doubt their VR ploys are either "it's cool" (while spending no effort on account support on Facebook proper) or "must monopolize everything". Zuck is smart but he's... well, single minded as far as that goes. He wants domination

Re: Meta acquires Moltbook

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Post by vincentmacura »

3rodents wrote: post #24

I thought that Moltbook was sort of a joke because it was people LARPing as agents as much as it was agents, and given that, I'm confused by this: > "The Moltbook team has given agents a way to verify their identity and connect with one another on their human's behalf," Shah says. "This establishes a registry where agents are verified and tethered to human owners." So the impetus for the acquisition was either the ve…

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