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Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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I'm about to head to the gym with my 12.9-inch 2017 vintage iPad Pro, which is still going strong. I prop it up on the elliptical trainer every other day or so for entertaining me while I grind out an hour of cardio. I use it for reading, watching YouTube, listening to music, audiobooks, etc. It's been my regular gym buddy for years, and is showing no signs of needing to be replaced. It's stuck on iPadOS 17.7.10, whi…

My iPad 2011 is still going strong, except that my Airpods Pro won't talk with them anymore. So should I buy a second pair of work-out earphones or a new tablet? A new tablet would give me back access to app store and many apps, which are no longer compatible with this old slab, but at least Amazon Prime Video and most importantly, VLC still works.

I’d buy a new (or used) tablet. An iPad 10th gen can be had lightly used or refurb for under $200. Or go with the brand new 12th gen that is supposed to be coming out tomorrow at $349 if you’re not on a super tight budget and want it to last you as long as that ancient one did.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Thank you for making me feel old. The first iPad came out when I was doing my PhD. When I was a kid, Tim Berners-Lee was inventing the web.

I remember sitting on my friend's couch drinking beer when they announced the iPad and debating if it was ever going to be popular. Time marches on.

I remember the total uproar about the name! Everyone said it was too close to a Feminine hygiene product, or too close to iPod. Nobody's complaining any more.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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I have a 6 with cracked glass and won't buy another one until 3rd party browsers can release without webkit. The net is an awful place without uBlock, which I am reminded about every time I try to surf with the ipad...

DNS-based blocking is the way (possibly via conditional VPN if you can tolerate the minimal latency bump).

nextdns.io works fine on my iphone so ipad shall be fine

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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The cpu is better but the software is worse and more bloated so they fight against each other

This sums up my entire experience with technology progress over the past 40 years.

40 years from now we won't be able to boot our device until an LLM codes the software on the fly for it. (Each time it boots, of course.)

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Shared iPad overview Shared iPad allows more than one user to sign in to an iPad. The iPad needs to be supervised before Shared iPad can be used. Shared iPad can be used not only in education but also in business. Multiple users can use the iPad, and the user experiences can be personal even though the devices are shared. Shared iPad requires a device management service and Managed Apple Accounts that an organization…

> Shared iPad requires a device management service and Managed Apple Accounts that an organization issues and owns I don't want to have to do a bunch of sysadmin just so my wife and I can both see our own YouTube subscriptions on an iPad. Again, you could do this with zero fuss in 5 minutes on Windows XP.

the point is that the OS primitives exist.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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I have a 6 with cracked glass and won't buy another one until 3rd party browsers can release without webkit. The net is an awful place without uBlock, which I am reminded about every time I try to surf with the ipad...

Your answer is Vivaldi, it has a built-in ad blocker that in my few years experience works exactly the same as ubo out of the box. If it wasn't for Vivaldi, I wouldn't buy an iPad because of what you described.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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I haven't seen one yet, but theoretically a case that secures the tablet in a holder that has a proper hinge (instead of the typical kickstand style) attached would work. You'd have to weight the keyboard a bit but there's no reason it wouldn't work, and effectively give you the exact same form factor as a laptop.

That sounds like the existing Magic Keyboard for the current iPad airs and pros, can you explain the difference a bit more?

i bought a magic keyboard for my 11" ipad pro and ultimately didn't use it much. it does have a traditional laptop-style hinge, but the way the ipad mounts to the case brings it forward over the keyboard more than with a regular laptop. the hinge also doesn't allow for a very wide range of motion (even compared to macbooks). finally, the center of gravity is really high compared to a laptop which makes it awkward to use as a literal laptop or when lying down.

it definitely looks cool (i could see the design having been inspired by the OG Mac and 20th Anniversary Mac) but works best on a stable surface; plus if you want to use it purely as a tablet, you're left with a big clunky keyboard case to deal with.

the idea of a laptop/tablet combo is cool but i haven't seen the concept executed very successfully from either starting point.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Working as intended. Even the way you framed it. Every family member has a separate physically distinct iPad, paid for separately. It's never considered that two people might be able to use the same hardware, which is the question here.

We each have our own car too. Hard to share the things people use at the same time.

> Hard to share the things people use at the same time.

Yes, but if it's your goal to have fewer cars, then you'd make an effort not to need to use it at the same time. If that's not what you're trying to do, fine. My wife and I share a car. It's slightly inconvenient sometimes, but really not bad at all. For our particular life anyway.

So here we're talking about iPads. Some families need multiple devices for various reasons. Some don't except for the fact that iPads don't support accounts. No one's saying you would have to use them. But you're not allowed to.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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The iPad would go from a never-buy to a buy-right-away for me, if they added user profiles. It'd be a nice thing to have on your coffee table, where anyone in the household can pick it up and be logged into all of their stuff. Windows XP had this feature. Chromebooks have this feature. It's inexcusable that such an expensive gadget can only have one user.

I agree 100%. When I purchased my Steam Deck, I was actually surprised that it was so easy to switch between Steam profiles. Last year, my wife and I tried Apple Vision Pro. While we aren't the target audience for a $3,500 headset, we might be tempted at $1,200. But not if each of us needs to buy our own.

I was also going to point out how awesome the Steam Deck multi-user experience is:

    1. Turn on Steam Deck
    2. Open Steam on your phone
    3. Scan QR code
    4. Choose whether or not to stay signed in on the Steam Deck
It is such a great UX that makes using the hardware very easy for any random Steam user who picks it up.

I'm sure the security angle would be something a lot of people would bring up, but if iPad had this feature, they could make great use of Apple's Data Protection Classes[1] to ensure that all per-user data is encrypted when that specific user is not logged in and actively using the device.

1. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/data-protection-cla...

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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I had this thought until I actually replaced my iPad with the m1 chip. It was actually better at youtube by being more efficient, I could watch videos for a full day before needing to charge.

I’m not sure this is a good thing..

Not needing to charge as much due to much better battery capacity and/or usage efficiency is objectively a good thing, full stop.

How that additional time is actually spent is a whole separate story, but that's entirely tangential to assessing the impact of battery life improving.

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