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Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by mmustapic »

cracki wrote: post #159
the_af wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's hard to tell any more. Wait, I think I have the answer! "You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over. But it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why…

Hm... Why? Ah! Because you are also a tortoise

They're just questions

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by Ntrails »

esseph wrote: post #398
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #387

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> I think most engineers vastly overestimate how important high quality, maintainable, reliable code is to product success. Rather: Many software developers overestimate how important high quality, maintainable, reliable code is to initial product success . Once the product is highly successful, a high quality, maintainable, reliable code pays huge dividends - and I have a strong feeling that most business people vas…

Vibecoding to production and $1mil ARR (random number) now proves out the application basics and market value which pays for it to be redone correctly :)

There won't be a re-do, there will be a feature request pipeline. Correct is a term of art and unlikely to come into it. If you start losing customers because of reliability, they'll ask Claude to fix it. If that doesn't work you're gonna be in trouble, because you won't have people.

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by geldedus »

anshulagx wrote: post #153

This misses the point that AI is not just vibe coding, but the same opus 4.6 is also exceptionally good at idea generation, content generation, research etc etc. It is not just vibe coding that is being developed, but general intellegence.

when i see an article that still mistakes AI-assisted programming with vibe coding , hard skip for me

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by toddmorrow »

If I wanted a pcb before tariffs, China + shipping - I bet that holds true after tariffs. (it does, actually): PCB Cost: $5.00 Shipping:$5.63 Total:$10.63

- I bet that holds true for custom aluminum parts, etc

for some strange reason, shipping and prices from China "Maker nation" might have been 3D printer company hype. Or just the whole US supply chain is full of price gouging

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by LtWorf »

fragmede wrote: post #325
LtWorf wrote: post #281

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Having a 3d printer without learning how to use a cad seems kind of pointless.

If the point is to make a plastic switch cover, why is it important that the person CADs it themselves, rather than hitting print of a model they found online? Does it fail some sort of piety test that the end result that comes out the other end is a functional piece of plastic in a specific shape?

Because 90% of the time you won't find the one you need pre-designed.

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by fao_ »

peteforde wrote: post #328
paulryanrogers wrote: post #324

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Electronics can kill too. IIRC capacitors in CRTs are particularly deadly. Though I suppose someone using LLMs only as a first step, much like Wikipedia, is probably at much less risk than someone using it as their only source.

Yeah, okay but... look, I concede that someone who shouldn't be doing anything except watching passive entertainment could absolutely take insane advice from an LLM (or a sociopathic human) and seriously hurt themselves. But raw dogging capacitors in CRTs is such an overtly straw man argument in this conversation. People who are cleaning bathrooms for the first time can hopefully be trusted not to drink the bleach, r…

Don't worry, LLMs are perfectly ok for getting information. Just ask drugs.com about penisomab https://bsky.app/profile/harrisonk.bsky.social/post/3mfs6adw...

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by gtowey »

Bombthecat wrote: post #225
gtowey wrote: post #214

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Yeah, it's like saying that the amateur rocketry guys on youtube are going to replace NASA.

Good example! 90 percent ( or even more) of code do not need NASA level code. Vibe coding is good enough. Just like a five dollar t shirt is enough for many many people

> Good example! 90 percent ( or even more) of code do not need NASA level code.

I mean if you're saying that 90 percent of code is hobby level only, but I don't really agree that is the case.

I mean, take something like NPM and the JavaScript ecosystem. Every js project has mountains of dependencies which are included without a second thought or auditing of the code. Both in hobby projects and enterprise software alike. What happens when people vibe code those NPM modules? Is it a hobby? Maybe for them, but publishing it to an "official" source gives it implied credibility.

This is dangerous, because the line between production grade and hobby grade can get blurry real fast.

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by alnwlsn »

andsoitis wrote: post #309
peteforde wrote: post #307

I've got to be honest: my complete skepticism that the maker movement is somehow past tense makes it extremely difficult for me to take this tenuous comparison to LLM coding particularly seriously. The author talks about lowered barriers to prototyping as though they represent a failure state; that's absurd, and it has absolutely nothing to do with whether most people have membership-based maker spaces nearby. Meanwh…

> It's now possible for people to buy affordable CNCs, laser cutters and UV printers. Do a lot of people do it? Maybe the answer is a tentative yes, given news like the recent case about guns and 3D printing.

Of the people I know, about 80% of households have a 3D printer. Now, I'm sure I don't know that many people, but that's a lot more 3D printers than they had a decade ago.

Re: Will vibe coding end like the maker movement?

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Post by esseph »

esseph wrote: post #398
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think most engineers vastly overestimate how important high quality, maintainable, reliable code is to product success. Rather: Many software developers overestimate how important high quality, maintainable, reliable code is to initial product success . Once the product is highly successful, a high quality, maintainable, reliable code pays huge dividends - and I have a strong feeling that most business people vas…

Vibecoding to production and $1mil ARR (random number) now proves out the application basics and market value which pays for it to be redone correctly :)

Maybe I should have left a /s ...
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