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Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

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Post by fc417fc802 »

jacquesm wrote: post #193
zackmorris wrote: post #163

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I think of it more as that AI will destroy the profit motive in all things, not just art. What we used to think of as talent/skill/experience will no longer be scarce, because anyone will be able to make anything with a prompt. The perceived value will be in wholes built of valueless parts (gestalts). AI is incompatible with capitalism, but the world isn't ready for that. So we'll have a prolonged period of intense a…

On the contrary, the talent will be more scarce because there is no longer a motivation to acquire it in the first place.

Humans with a given talent being scarce doesn't mean that access to said talent is scarce.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

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Post by skybrian »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #59

I'm building my personal home right now. The AI image models have been a game-changer in designing the look of the house. My architect did an OK job, but the details that Nano Banana added really bring the house up a notch. I just do hundreds of renders from the basic 3D models and I find looks that I like and iterate from there. We are implementing the renders from Nano Banana over our Interior Designers designs. We…

Did you have to change anything based on cost and what the contractors can actually do?

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Post by abraxas »

sosodev wrote: post #141
sodacanner wrote: post #109

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People already have access to every form of niche pornography they could dare to imagine (for absolutely free!), I really doubt that 'personal taste' is the part that makes OF models their money. They'll be fine.

I think you're under-estimating how much personal taste applies in that industry. Yes, there's a lot of free content but it's often low quality and/or difficult to find for a particular niche. The OF pages, and other paid sites, are curated collections of high quality stuff that can satisfy particular cravings repeatedly with minimal effort. A big part of it also the feeling of "connection" with the creator via messa…

This is the dystopia of that pacified moon from "Mold of Yancy" by PKD but taken to the next level.

What's astonishing abut the present is that even PKD did not foresee the possibility of an artificial being not only being constructed from whole cloth but actually tailored to each individual.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

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Post by skybrian »

jacquesm wrote: post #21

What a great thing this didn't exist in the past. We likely wouldn't have had any of the amazing artworks that we have now. Imagine an AI generated Mona Lisa, Nightwatch or Sistine Chapel ceiling because prompting would have been so much cheaper than paying Leonardo, Rembrandt or Michelangelo... Now extrapolate to all other artforms. Sculpture seems safe, for now, but only barely so.

Michelangelo at least would have been okay with that. He would have rather been working on sculptures.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

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Post by jezzamon »

yakattak wrote: post #37
jezzamon wrote: post #27

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One major thing is photoreal use cases, which artists can't really do. A lot of that is deep fakes / scams but there are some real use cases

Isn’t that what photographers are for?

Photographers can't take photos of things that don't exist...

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Post by avmich »

qsera wrote: post #384
avmich wrote: post #360

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> Originality comes from humans experiencing the world and interacting with it. What AI tool is a living being interacting with the world? None, of course. Hence the constant generic slop images of Impressionism or some other already-existing art style. I suspect here we have underlying disagreement regarding assumption that AI - in general, not necessarily today's models - isn't qualitatively different than human mi…

> why do you think AI products may not have tastes? Because it can't feel. Get used to it. It can't feel, and what ever it comes up with, would be an imitation of someone real who can feel. So it can generate stuff that can cater to a taste, but the thing itself can't have tasts. It is fundamental. Arguing about it all day wont change it.

I don't think you understand, but you effectively shutting down the discussion. Your choice.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

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Post by micw »

vunderba wrote: post #316
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #59

I'm building my personal home right now. The AI image models have been a game-changer in designing the look of the house. My architect did an OK job, but the details that Nano Banana added really bring the house up a notch. I just do hundreds of renders from the basic 3D models and I find looks that I like and iterate from there. We are implementing the renders from Nano Banana over our Interior Designers designs. We…

NB Pro can do some seriously impressive edits around interior decorating - see the prompt that replaces the window with a mirror which correctly reflects the room. It's not perfect, but it's still damn impressive. https://mordenstar.com/blog/edits-with-nanobanana

I'm deeply impressed, especially with the "replace window by mirror". It did not only do the window thing right, it also changed the illumination of the whole room while keeping all the other details unchanged.

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Post by dsymonds »

nananana9 wrote: post #400
slumberlust wrote: post #386

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Not understanding how consciousness is created doesn't make it divine. Do you think it's an impossible task or just one we need more time to figure out?

Given that this is the one problem that neither scientists nor philosophers have made any progress on in 3000 years, we don't have the tools to begin tackling it and nobody is making serious attempts, it may very well be impossible.

Humanity made no meaningful progress in getting "to the stars" for thousands of years too, then in the space of a few decades we did.

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Post by rvnx »

nananana9 wrote: post #400
slumberlust wrote: post #386

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Not understanding how consciousness is created doesn't make it divine. Do you think it's an impossible task or just one we need more time to figure out?

Given that this is the one problem that neither scientists nor philosophers have made any progress on in 3000 years, we don't have the tools to begin tackling it and nobody is making serious attempts, it may very well be impossible.

We can't know if consciousness emerges but does it actually matter ?

These entities, whoever they are, they act on our world, they are real, and more and more over time they will get independent from humans, eventually becoming different species that can self-replicate.

For now they need legs and arms to interact with the physical world but I am certain that 100 years from now they will be an integral part of the society.

I already see today LLMs slowly taking actual legal decisions for example, having real world impact.

Once they get physical, perhaps it will be acceptable to become friend with a robot and go to adventure with it. Even, getting robosexual ?

We are not that far away. If I can have my buddy to carry my backpack and drive for me I'll take it. Already today. Not tomorrow.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

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Post by oliyoung »

avmich wrote: post #269
keiferski wrote: post #237

Some random predictions about what AI image generation tools will do/are doing to art: 1. The narrative/life of the artist becomes a lot more important. The most successful artists are ones that craft a story around their life and art, and don't just create stuff and stop. This will become even more important. 2. Originality matters more than ever. By design, these tools can only copy and mix things that already exis…

I mostly disagree. > 1... The narrative/life of the artist becomes a lot more important. When I watch a movie, I don't care about the artist's life. I care about character life, that's very different. > 2... Originality matters more than ever. By design, these tools can only copy and mix things that already exist. It's like you assigning to humans divine capabilities :) . Hyperbolizing a little, humans also only copy…

> When I watch a movie, I don't care about the artist's life.

And here we come back to the aged old "can you seperate an artist from their art" because I'd argue when you watch a movie you are watching a product of their life

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