IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report • Hacker News Board

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by LorenPechtel » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:13 PM UTC

idiotsecant wrote: post #363

LorenPechtel wrote: post #351

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You saw pictures of a hospital. This must be the definition of pedantry. The point is *Israel deliberately destroyed an unconscionable number of hospitals, killing enormous amounts of real-life civilian people, actual humans like you and I. People with daughters, husbands, friends, people who were just as valuable as anyone else.

Pictures of a basically untouched hospital. The destruction is way overstated.

And let's look at the numbers. Hamas numbers are fantasy but let's pretend they're accurate. ~70k. I have not seen anyone contesting the Israeli database being combatants. ~9k. Note that even granting the most extreme claims this is still better than what western powers typically do--and it's in an unevacuated urban environment which is the worst case.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by School-Cotton » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:14 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #202

upmind wrote: post #162

If this was happening against the west, people would care a lot more. Unfortunately, nothing seems to be happening to Israel.

> If this was happening against the west, people would care a lot more It’s literally happening in Ukraine and, to a lesser scale but precisely the same in type, Minneapolis. On the other hand, there are conflicts across Africa and Asia which are not receiving half the attention.

> It’s literally happening in Ukraine

Ukraine isn't part of the West.

> to a lesser scale but precisely the same in type, Minneapolis

What was happening in Minneapolis is not only much smaller in scale than what's happening in Palestine, it's also just a completely different thing.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by yosamino » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:14 PM UTC

appreciatorBus wrote: post #340

bdhe wrote: post #296

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Hamas support or Palestinian support?

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The meaning of your comment is

> The people I don't agree with are too stupid to understand what they are supporting.

That is lazy thinking, and your claim is unsubstantiated. That doesn't move a discussion towards a better understanding of each other, it fosters division.

Please don't do that.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by LorenPechtel » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:14 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #386

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Which fact would you like to dispute? That the Geneva Conventions cover more than civilians is... not tough to back up. https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciii-1949

And what is the relevance here? That's talking about prisoners of war, not talking about military use of "civilian" things.

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Post by neoromantique » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:14 PM UTC

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Is that the same cooperation seen in the West Bank where Israel keeps sending settlers and make Palestine land smaller and smaller every single year? I highly recommend to watch the Oscar winning movie “no other land”, for anyone that thinks that Israel would just let them leave in peace

Israeli settlers are despicable, but even in current government those who support them are minority freaks(who Hamas has empowered very much after October 7th).

Also it is a two way street, there is also a problem of Palestinian settlers, which while I do want to highlight is separate and in no way justifies the Israeli ones, is still a real problem and harnesses a lot of bad publicity when Israel destroys said illegal settlements.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by 34679 » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:15 PM UTC

dudefeliciano wrote: post #69

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by magic_hamster » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:15 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #366

magic_hamster wrote: post #303

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> They took a witness… And the satellite photos showing the scene, and the cell phone video showing the shooting...

From the report:

> The report by Earshot and Forensic Architecture reconstructs, minute by minute, how the massacre unfolded. Using video and audio recordings from the incident[1], open-source images and videos[2], satellite imagery[3], social media posts[4], and other materials[5], as well as in-depth interviews with two survivors of the attack[6], the groups were able to digitally reconstruct the scene and events surrounding the massacre.

So out of multiple "sources", some of which aren't even mentioned ("other materials"?), only the first one is actually from the scene. Sources 2 through 5 are not from the actual scene. The "interviews" are eye witness accounts which are extremely unreliable in this context, especially in a gunfight in the dark.

I don't know. Doesn't seem all that high-tech impressive or even reliable to me. There's also a huge problem with the team conducting this report being consistently biased in their terminology, having team members with titles like "activist", and having researchers from Ramallah and other places who are clearly a side in the conflict.

I will be glad to see a neutral, journalistic research of this incident trying to actually get to the truth and determine if there were hamas militants in the convoy, rather than see some self proclaimed activists play with google maps.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by LorenPechtel » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:16 PM UTC

expedition32 wrote: post #229

ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by aucisson_masque » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:16 PM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #328

guerrilla wrote: post #293

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> Hamas was insane to think that Bibi would NOT BOMB the Gaza in retaliation. My theory is that they knew this would happen and they did it because they knew it would garner support (which it did) and they also knew they had nothing to lose because this is what would have happened in the long-term anyway. They chose between a quick death and a slow death. Unfortunately, everyone else who originally chose them to prot…

Let's also not forget that Hamas still exists and is regaining numbers and territory: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98g1klxnpxo You can't just stamp out a guerilla resistance the way Israel have tried to do. I suspect Hamas reckoned that a well-timed short term sacrifice would turn global opinion against Israel.

Well they still have the full support of the usa government, and I'm pretty sure that even democrats would still keep supporting Israel.

So what did they really lost? Do they even care that some Europeans don't like them ? Europeans are not the one who sell them 99% of their weapons.

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Post by School-Cotton » Tue, Feb 24, 2026, 11:16 PM UTC

conartist6 wrote: post #63

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From where I sit nobody is questioning that the Israelis are supposed to be the good guys in this story. But the stories coming from the region are horrific! Is it true that it is the official policy of the IDF to shoot to kill children who throw stones at them? Plus because Israel is making serious efforts to choke off all information from the region, I understand that it takes some time before a sober accounting of…

> From where I sit nobody is questioning that the Israelis are supposed to be the good guys in this story.

That's a baffling claim.

Israelis emphatically not being "the good guys in this story" is a very mainstream (though not necessarily majority) view in every country in the world, possibly with the exception of Israel itself.