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Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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> But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships. > A timeless interval was spent in doing that. > And it came to pass that AC learned how to reverse the direction of entropy. > But there was now no man to whom AC might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer -- by demonstration -- would take care of that, too. > For another timeless inter…

Got goose bumps, exactly as the first time reading this. Thanks for sharing

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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It's not like they work a lot, why would a religious leader need to outsource spiritual advice to a chatbot? It only shows that all humans are lazy, no matter how virtuous they want to be seen as. IMO this counts as sloth. Hopefully this discredits religions even more with the younger generations. Claiming that an immensely powerful being demands obedience of you, and keeps tabs on you all the time, but his orders on…

> Claiming that an immensely powerful being demands obedience of you, and keeps tabs on you all the time, but his orders only go through a chosen few, was a hard proposition to begin with. You just described what Silicon Valley wants to build lol

I think it's even more pernicious. Religious leaders want to tell you what to think, but since it usually benefits them, it takes constant reinforcement to be effective.

On the contrary, we willingly use (and even pay for) chatbots so they increasingly think for us, and it would take a monumental effort to take them away from us now.

People would even make their own if needed, but at least in that case, it won't be a megacorp telling the chatbot what to think in the first place.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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If you don't adopt biblical literalism, then isn't the Bible just true in the same way that Star Wars is true?

No. You interpret each document in context and in culture. For example, you interpret Genesis as a story that makes a point and tell you something - it is like Jesus's parables (no one same says they are literal!). For example, that all human beings are made in the image of God - as we all look different that is clearly not literal. That we are all related and of one ancestry. On the other hand you interpret the gosp…

I think their point was that Star Wars also has metaphorical lessons to be learned if you're not interpreting it as a literal history lesson.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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IMO, any (important) writing you expect other humans to consume should be your own writing. I think it's kind of disrespectful to outsource your voice to AI but expect people to read it like it's yours. Why should I put in time to read if you're not putting in time to write?

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like they work a lot, why would a religious leader need to outsource spiritual advice to a chatbot? It only shows that all humans are lazy, no matter how virtuous they want to be seen as. IMO this counts as sloth. Hopefully this discredits religions even more with the younger generations. Claiming that an immensely powerful being demands obedience of you, and keeps tabs on you all the time, but his orders on…

You’re seething hatred is so obvious from this comment that no one should consider your opinion as anything close to valid

I don't think so. I didn't use hateful language, and while I see religion, especially for-profit religion, as a net societal loss, I don't think I worded my argument as seething hatred.

I can see how a strong disagreement can be dismissed as hate, though. It preserves the cognitive dissonance between reality and belief.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. You interpret each document in context and in culture. For example, you interpret Genesis as a story that makes a point and tell you something - it is like Jesus's parables (no one same says they are literal!). For example, that all human beings are made in the image of God - as we all look different that is clearly not literal. That we are all related and of one ancestry. On the other hand you interpret the gosp…

I think their point was that Star Wars also has metaphorical lessons to be learned if you're not interpreting it as a literal history lesson.

Yes, that is the point of fiction. its not unfair to compare Genesis to Star Wars to an extent, but, to a Christian, what you learn from Genesis is a lot more important (the "word of God" rather than the "word of George Lucas").

However, much of the rest of the Bible should be read differently - the letters, biographies etc. Each document ("book") needs to be read appropriately and in context. Again, each can be compared to others in its genre, but its inclusion in "the Bible" (but there are lots of Biblical canons) gives it that extreme importance.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Yesterday I when I was googling something it hit me: I wouldn't know how to find anything without a search engine. We're already reliant on big tech regarding what information is presented to us and LLMs are just the next step in that direction.

i dont remember a world without google but surely the answer is just walk into a library?

What if you need up to date, niche information?

It's a given that a book on programming is already out of date when it goes to print.

My main gripe with paper sources is that sometimes an important piece of information is only mentioned in passing when the author clearly knew more about it.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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IMO, any (important) writing you expect other humans to consume should be your own writing. I think it's kind of disrespectful to outsource your voice to AI but expect people to read it like it's yours. Why should I put in time to read if you're not putting in time to write?

That’s exactly right. The second I determine something was written by AI is the second I close the tab / scroll past. It’s beyond disrespectful to expect others to read wordslop that you only barely created via prompt.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

#409

IMO, any (important) writing you expect other humans to consume should be your own writing. I think it's kind of disrespectful to outsource your voice to AI but expect people to read it like it's yours. Why should I put in time to read if you're not putting in time to write?

I write stories and tech docs. I'll happily outsource writing tech docs to AI. It would be better than anything I would write. I won't let AI to touch my stories. Their input is boring and cringy. So both things can be true at same time.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't adopt biblical literalism, then isn't the Bible just true in the same way that Star Wars is true?

No. You interpret each document in context and in culture. For example, you interpret Genesis as a story that makes a point and tell you something - it is like Jesus's parables (no one same says they are literal!). For example, that all human beings are made in the image of God - as we all look different that is clearly not literal. That we are all related and of one ancestry. On the other hand you interpret the gosp…

> It is the traditional way of interpreting the Bible and few people had a problem with it until modern times.

Sorry to nitpick, but there were quite a lot of "heathens" and "witches" who had faced some problems with the traditional interpretations of the Bible before modern times.

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