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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by kridsdale3 »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #356
fragmede wrote: post #334

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Social skills to get my computer to do what I want still blows my mind. Or having to talk back to it. Claude said it couldn't do something, and the way around that was too tell it "yes you can". What a weird future we live in.

Claude said it couldn't do something, and the way around that was too tell it "yes you can". >kill dragon With what? Your bare hands? >yes Congratulations! You have just vanquished a dragon with your bare hands! (Unbelievable, isn't it?)

\> kill dragon

-bash: kill: dragon: arguments must be process or job IDs

\> sudo kill dragon

-bash: Congratulations! You have just vanquished a dragon with your bare hands!

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by consumer451 »

fwip wrote: post #382
consumer451 wrote: post #318

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Four months ago, I was playing with basically the same framework to explore the idea of "consciousness," using Claude Agent SDK as the harness and Opus 4.5 as the LLM. I was thinking: wake up every hour, look at some webcams and the weather forecast (senses, change), maybe look at my calendar, maybe read my personal emails for important things, proactively chat with me for work or just fun via email invites. I played…

Don't worry, you're not an idiot. This is not gonna pan out.

Just like when I discounted cryptocurrency in 2012, yet again I may be overthinking things.

That is the lesson that I would like to share on this platform: If you have an idea, any idea, just do it. Do it now. Build now.

It turns out that there are a lot of morons. Role the dice, you are likely not one of the bag holders, as one of the readers of this comment. I wish I had been younger when I had realized this circle of life.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by kridsdale3 »

borroka wrote: post #381
LogicFailsMe wrote: post #280

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That's because the loudest voices don't really get how the technology or the science works. They just know how to shout persuasively. I think AI is about to do the same thing to pair programming that full self-driving has done for driving. It will be a long time before it's perfect but it's already useful. I also think someone is going to make a Blockbuster quality movie with AI within a couple years and there will b…

I do not doubt that AI and AI-powered and -native applications will become part of the fabric of our personal and professional lives. What I don't understand is why, outside of "because I can", people need to automate parts of life I did not know the existence of. - Why, outside of edge cases, do people have to automate the payment of bills beyond the automatic cc processing? - How many times a month do they have to…

Sounds like Brazil.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by borroka »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #403
borroka wrote: post #381

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I do not doubt that AI and AI-powered and -native applications will become part of the fabric of our personal and professional lives. What I don't understand is why, outside of "because I can", people need to automate parts of life I did not know the existence of. - Why, outside of edge cases, do people have to automate the payment of bills beyond the automatic cc processing? - How many times a month do they have to…

Sounds like Brazil.

Sunny coastal California

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by kridsdale3 »

bobson381 wrote: post #92
randusername wrote: post #71

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I think you have to get in early to understand the opportunities and limitations. I feel lucky to have experienced early Facebook and Twitter. My friends and I figured out how to avoid stupidity when the stakes were low. Oversharing, getting "hacked", recognizing engagement-bait. And we saw the potential back when the goal was social networking, not making money. Our parents were late. Lambs for the slaughter by the…

So acquiring immunity to a lower-risk version of the service before it's ramped up? e.g. jumping on FB now as a new user is vastly different from doing so in 2014 - so while you might go through the same noob-patterms, you're doing so with a lower-octane version of the thing. Like the risk of AI psychosis has probably gone up for new users, like the risk of someone getting too high since we started optimizing weed fo…

I'm genuinely so worried for the current crop of kids.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by dolebirchwood »

dingaling wrote: post #362
yoyohello13 wrote: post #295

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The freezer one is so weird because there is an even simpler solution to the problem. Just buy less shit! If you have so much stuff that you can’t keep track then don’t have so much stuff, simple. I think there is a common psychology when people notice a problem they first think about what they can add to solve the problem, when often the best solution is to think about what you can remove.

Or, as my partner does, keep a page magnetted to the freezer, divided into three 'shelves', with a list of what's where.

We just have a magnetic whiteboard on the refrigerator and write down things we need to buy when we run low/out. A true modern marvel, and no AI bot required!

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm »

game_the0ry wrote: post #281
verdverm wrote: post #229

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We are not old, there is a reason the generation is said (in stats and polls) to be less professional than prior generations when entering the workforce

> less professional than prior generations when entering the workforce Every older generation says that about the next.

It's not about generations, it's about professionalism. This generation, on average, decided that professionalism is not their thing, at least that is the prevailing sentiment.

People who don't adhere to professional standards find fewer job opportunities and lower pay. The market will work things out

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by XorNot »

angiolillo wrote: post #372
louiereederson wrote: post #238

- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…

> Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? I agree that removing items and taking pictures takes more effort than it saves, but I would use a simpler solution if one existed because it turns out I cannot remember what we have. When my partner goes to the store I get periodic text messages from them asking how much X we have…

Fridge cataloging is actually a great use case for image recognition, the problem is fridges no accommodations to power accessories inside them.

I have a couple of temperature sensors to alert Home Assistant if the fridge gets too warm. It would be easy and cheap to add some ESP32-camera modules to track contents...but there's no way to power them nicely (I simply don't know where I could pull USB power through).

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by lanakei »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #400
ghostly_s wrote: post #330

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- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? Had to go back because I skimmed over this screenshot. I have to presume it's because this guy who books $600 Airbnb's for vacation wants to save a couple bucks by ordering them on Amazon.

And spend $600 in Anthropic credits to do so.

It doesn't cost $600 in Anthropic credits though. It probably costs a few cents (definitely I do understand the general point you're trying to make, but you can't overestimate the cost of tokens by a few orders of magnitude and still expect the logic to hold.
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