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Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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It's not complex at all. It's just violence. People are doing things you don't want them to do, so you do something to make them stop. Pretty standard. If they can muster defiance, it's only because you weren't violent enough. If someone is defiant enough to play probability games with you, just punish them 100% of the time instead, even if they did nothing. He was probably doing it some other time where you didn't c…

But don't you see that if you solve your problems this way, the obnoxious neighbour can also solve their problem this way? "Stop making a noise or I'll beat you up" vs "Quit complaining about the noise or I'll beat you up" Your position just means every disagreement comes down to a physical fight. Is that how you want to live? Willingness to use violence to get what you want is not inherently linked to being in the r…

> Your position just means every disagreement comes down to a physical fight.

> Is that how you want to live?

The threat of violence is always present. It's just that in "civilized" societies it's often indirect and abstracted. People don't usually get violent, they pay lawyers to complain to the courts which have the power to order police to commit measured amounts of violence on their behalf if necessary.

When negotiation fails and police is unlikely to help, people quickly revert to taking matters into their own hands.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #394

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It's not complex at all. It's just violence. People are doing things you don't want them to do, so you do something to make them stop. Pretty standard. If they can muster defiance, it's only because you weren't violent enough. If someone is defiant enough to play probability games with you, just punish them 100% of the time instead, even if they did nothing. He was probably doing it some other time where you didn't c…

> Smart people don't fuck around and find out. Of course they do. Some of the smartest people out there are habitual risk takers. We wouldn't have organised crime if it weren't for people smart enough to not get caught or killed early on. Your method doesn't take into account that the person you're targeting also has a brain and they will use it against you and also that they have as much power as you do. Overall you…

> the person you're targeting also has a brain and they will use it against you

Never claimed otherwise. As I said, things tend to escalate until someone discovers their limits and backs down.

I discussed this in more detail in a sibling comment thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46851795

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #43

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People who smoke on the balconies of multi-unit buildings are awful people. It’d be a beautiful day but I can’t keep my windows open because there’s always somebody smoking to make my unit smell disgusting if I just want to enjoy a cool breeze going through. Thank goodness smoking is becoming rarer here and is no banned pretty much everywhere indoors and near entrances. I don’t mind if people have a vice (I’ve got mi…

It makes me a little sad to see a lot of peoples comments here about how they're annoyed by xyz thing someone does that doesn't stop at there fence line or unit. So many are being downvoted.

XYZ thing? ... No it's not XYZ thing. It's smoke which directly impacts the health of my family and the enjoyment of our home.

Want to cancer yourself and stink to high heaven? Absolutely 100% fine by me.

Just don't drag anyone else into it.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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It makes me a little sad to see a lot of peoples comments here about how they're annoyed by xyz thing someone does that doesn't stop at there fence line or unit. So many are being downvoted.

XYZ thing? ... No it's not XYZ thing. It's smoke which directly impacts the health of my family and the enjoyment of our home. Want to cancer yourself and stink to high heaven? Absolutely 100% fine by me. Just don't drag anyone else into it.

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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I have no electricity except solar. It works well for all my needs, technology has solved this depending on your needs and how much money you have. I have no water except the one I bring when I buy food weekly/every two weeks. I'm still renovating/building so I'll have a well in the future. I heat my home with wood that I cut on my own property, I enjoy this very much. It's a workout that also produces something of v…

Before your last sentence I thought, "wow this person is some kind of space alien." But as soon as you said "this is in Sweden," I understood you completely. I don't know what that says about me or Sweden. But it all clicked into place.

Yes you kind of feel like an extraterrestrial living like this, which could be another drawback.

I find comfort in these quotes however:

“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” — Jiddu Krishnamurti

and…

“I look crazy but I'm not. And the funny thing is that other people don't look crazy but they are.” — eden ahbez

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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I have a TV-Be-Gone device, which is designed to disable TV’s in a certain radius. It has been an absolutely wonderful little accessory during business trips .. someone watching something obnoxious at the hotel bar? TV-Be-Gone! A Flipper Zero would be the modern equivalent, I suppose. I like the idea of being able to turn off devices in a certain radius - but I don’t like the idea of everyone having one. Having ultim…

I used to use the IR blaster on my Android phones to shut off the TVs in doctor's office waiting rooms when I was the only one waiting.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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I think the biggest problem is, everyone basically living on their own these days instead of treating neighbors like a collective of individuals that can absolutely have life changing consequences for you, if you either get along with them very well or if you annoy each other. We humans are not build to spend our lives in front of small or big screens. It makes people angry, sad, lonely and weird and sometimes they t…

Most reasonable take in the entire thread. Thanks for writing.

> peace is something that requires cooperation.

Funny that many people consider peace as simply being left alone, forgetting that we are fundamentally social animals and there are many very real benefits of being part of a (functioning) society.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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The HTC One smartphone came with a programmable IR port. All you had to do was determine the TV brand (easy if you can see it), then point the top of the phone at the TV pushing the "power" button until it went off. Then you knew you had the right configuration. I mostly used it for turning volume down in waiting rooms or at bars, but a bar was also where I figured out most of their TVs tend to be set to the same con…

In the 90s, my HP-48G graphing calculator had the same, and someone wrote a free universal remote control app for it. I had way too much fun screwing with the TVs at school.

I did exactly the same. So many good laughs !!! :))

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Right, so the problem here, apart from people not giving a shit, is that no-one has designed a 'spirit level for soundproofing' - a tool that can be used during the job by the builder and by the supervisor to check on it. What you have is equipment that can be used after "second fix", at which point no-one wants to rip the plaster off to fix anything, so it becomes a box ticking exercise. There are two kinds of issue…

And get it into a modern certification. Want LEEDS? Get the sound measurement people out.

When people complain about housing prices being too high, this is what I usually point them to. There are _a lot_ of boxes to tick, some of those boxes are critical, some are not so much. Some are severely punished, some are not so much. Some have extremely high costs and are a PITA, some not so much.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #133

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> You can shut windows. They could just not smoke, or smoke far away from the building where it won’t bother anyone. > Where else do you think they are going to do it? I don’t know, I’m not the one smoking. That’s their problem to solve. I don’t think they’d like it if I left a bucket of rotting fish on my balcony.

> I don’t know, I’m not the one smoking. That’s their problem to solve. It’s your problem not theirs. It bothers you, not them. They probably don’t even know it bothers you. Are you really surrounded by smokers and cannot open a window all day and night? Dude, let me tell you… you’re making your own life difficult. There are full buildings where smoking is forbidden. Make your own life easy, don’t harass others with…

> It’s your problem not theirs. It bothers you, not them. They probably don’t even know it bothers you.

Victim blaming 101. Oh you've been raped? Your problem, it bothers you, not the rapist.

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