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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by direwolf20 »

aprentic wrote: post #347
pjc50 wrote: post #298

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Don't forget that the regular operation of Chinese policing is already much less free than what Americans are used to, plus the restrictions on internal freedom of migration (Hukou, less onerous than it used to be, plus the two SAR of Macao and HK). Mandatory state-issued ID, linked to your phone and bank account and so on. As well as racial profiling. There's not that much immigration to China in the first place, le…

How so? My experience in China was that the police were a bit on the bureaucratic side but otherwise far less obtrusive than in the US. They divide their police forces into civil police and armed police. The civil police tend to be bored looking middle aged guys lounging around in guard booths at museums. They don't have weapons. The only armed police I saw stood at attention at the airport except when they had a cha…

Isn't it the case that Chinese police don't need to be as visible because everyone fears what they can do, and doesn't commit crimes? A bit like how Iran has to send in military force to kill 50k protestors, but the UK can just spread a few messages that people will be arrested, and then they don't protest.

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Post by ModernMech »

guywithahat wrote: post #397
gizzlon wrote: post #305

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Did you just link to grokipedia?

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Of course you like it, the whole point of grokipedia is to give a slant for people who share Musk’s political views. The vandalism is endemic.

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Post by Cyph0n »

palmotea wrote: post #352
Cyph0n wrote: post #211

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It’s January. My bad for not being as infallible as you are. That’s not what Romney said. His - and the wider establishment’s - concern is that unsanctioned content is allowed to be treated the same as any other content. Anyone knows that TikTok simply tailors your feed to your interests & interactions. But even this is not acceptable when it comes to topics the establishment doesn’t want disseminated. And if they ha…

> That’s not what Romney said. His - and the wider establishment’s - concern is that unsanctioned content is allowed to be treated the same as any other content. The axios article you linked was not actually very clear about what Romney said, and the actual quotes are consistent with my points. > Anyone knows that TikTok simply tailors your feed to your interests & interactions. You'd have to be pretty naive to think…

I have made my points; you have made yours. And like I said, do not start complaining when your cause is put on the suppression list.

And since I am an LLM, I cannot engage any further here :)

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Post by curt15 »

woooooo wrote: post #279
pjc50 wrote: post #233

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Well, yes, China doesn't have open media for its citizens. Chinese people will on average be less well informed about China , even accounting for the extent of Americans who choose trashy propaganda channels. (reminded of ex-tech influencer Naomi Wu, who basically went dark with a post along the lines of "the police have told me to stop posting")

You're saying Chinese people are less informed than Americans about China?

Compare what is required to learn about the Tiananmen Square massacre from inside and outside the Great Firewall.

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Post by direwolf20 »

pousada wrote: post #222
zzzeek wrote: post #114

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tiktok always censored, it's just now it censors anti-Trump content instead of anti-CCP content [1] both are bad, I liked when tiktok was supposed to be just "banned". it's always been a tool for repressive governments [1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-28/tiktok-huawei-surveil...

If it’s true for TikTok it will likely be true for all other forms of popular social media (twitter, instagram, etc) too, so a ban wouldn’t have made a big difference probably.

TikTok was the only popular platform where you could doomscroll and see bad things the US is doing. All others censored it to please the administration. And now TikTok does too.

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Post by jimt1234 »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #374
SilverBirch wrote: post #336

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No, they also access information through Facebook owned by Trump ally Zuckerberg, X owned by Trump doner and DOGE former official Musk, or via media organisations like CBS who have recently had their editorial standards changed to be more friendly to the regime. It's fine though people can here about the regime through neutral pundits like Jimmy Kimmel, who definitely hasn't come under any pressure to comply with the…

We were so naive in the 2000s. 'Tech will democratize everything' forgetting they will just flood us with bullshit so that nothing means anything.

Back in the late-90s, I was watching a panel on CNN discussing the new "information age". Everyone talked optimistically about how the internet was gonna benefit humanity because people would be better informed - only the best information would make its way to the top, all the crap would be filtered out. But there was one naysayer, and I'll never forget what he said: More information is not better information. Others on the panel couldn't believe his cynicism; said he didn't understand people. I think about that a lot these days.

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Post by otterdude »

skulk wrote: post #377
megolodan wrote: post #310

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Beyond federated systems, P2P systems seem to have a strong advantage here in identifying bad actors. Ranking posts/comments by the exponential of inverse IPAddress-post-frequency would solve bad actors posting behind VPNs/proxies like evil bot farms / state actors and marketers. Real users have their own IP address, and IP addresses are expensive like $20-50 a month which would make mocking traffic an extremely expe…

> Ranking posts/comments by the exponential of inverse IPAddress-post-frequency Doesn't this just incentivize posting a bunch of comments from your residential proxy IP addresses to launder them? This smells like a poor strategy that's likely to lead to more spam than not. Also, everyone has to start somewhere so your legit IP addresses are also going to seem spammy at first.

I think residential proxy IP's still have the same associated cost, and arent those often for bundled traffic?

I'm not much of a blackhat so excuse my lack of knowledge on tricks of the trade

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Post by lostlogin »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #342
lostlogin wrote: post #263

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China is threatening invade other places, which are of more value to them.

It would not surprise me in the least to discover that China is the true source of the current internal attack on the US, and Russia is a cut out. It would be efficient for China to have Russia undermine the US while Russia also weakens itself. China has made huge inroads in Africa, which gives it access to essential metals and other raw materials, and also puts it in a strong position diplomatically.

If the root cause is external, it’s easier to stomach. But what if this is just America, attacking itself? That’s a lot harder.

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Post by direwolf20 »

pshirshov wrote: post #34
gruez wrote: post #25

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>is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to. Are we talking about the Trump administration or the Biden administration? The current ban was passed under Biden with supermajorities in both houses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_ban_TikTok_in_the_U... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore...

How can that be that during any single administration there always are bipartisan votes in favor of digital surveillance and censorship, oh, I mean online protection for kids and puppies? Pure coincidence I think. Boden's good, Grump's bad, simple as that. Or Grump's good, Boden's bad doesn't matter.

One is clearly worse than the other on some issues — only one of them executed US citizens in the street for protesting, during both terms.

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Post by ModernMech »

gadders wrote: post #368
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #321

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You forget that Obama wasn’t an idiot and did everything above board. Sanctuary cities existed back then, federal agents still enforced immigration rules just without Gestapo-like sh*t stirring. Trump wanted to provoke Minneapolis with aggressive highly visible tactics, and he got what he wanted.

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So you don’t think it has anything to do with the fact the federal government murdered two people in cold blood for all to see?
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