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Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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One thing nobody is touching on: since it's not actually open source, when this thing is found to have dozens of security holes (or any bugs), they are not going to be patched. ( Their announcement: https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life The API doc: https://assets.bosecreative.com/m/496577402d128874/original/... )

Also, when the likes of Spotify change their APIs, the integration will likely stop working too.

Has that not already happened? Spotify recently broke streaming on a load of AVRs following the Anna's Archive release, I'd have thought this hardware would have suffered the same fate.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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If you haven't tried foam replacement tips, they make a world of difference for me. I couldn't use the airpods (non-pro) at all. I could barely use the silicon tipped pros. But when I put a foam tip on them it not only blocks out ambient sound better, they stay in place. Unfortunately the foam wears out rather quickly and I replace them around three times a year.

To be fair I'm pretty satisfied with the AirPod fit situation if I am sitting at my computer where the noise reduction is handy when the guy across the hall for me at the office is talking up a storm administering contracts and when my son is practicing guitar scales upstairs at home. They don't fall out often and when they do I'm not worried about losing them. Out in public is different. (1) It's a pet peeve of mine…

I tend to use transparency mode when in public but still want to pay attention. Even with the foam tips, you can hear clearly then.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Sonos gets backlash every few years and they don’t change. It’s almost as if consumers are shit at boycotting companies. Which does make Boses move even more impressive when you think about how it wouldn’t have affected their business to do nothing.

A few years back Sonos was going to EoL and brick a huge humber of their "legacy" devices and that those devices would prevent new ones from getting updated. After backlash they reversed their decision and all devices remained functional: https://www.businessinsider.com/sonos-device-support-ceo-apo... However, I wouldn't expect anything from Sonos at this point in time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/1q6oi06/new_firmware...

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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A few years back Sonos was going to EoL and brick a huge humber of their "legacy" devices and that those devices would prevent new ones from getting updated. After backlash they reversed their decision and all devices remained functional: https://www.businessinsider.com/sonos-device-support-ceo-apo... However, I wouldn't expect anything from Sonos at this point in time.

And before that it was the “recycle mode” that actually bricked the hardware thus contributing to e-waste: https://www.whathifi.com/news/sonos-explains-why-recycle-mod... Sonos did revert that decision after mounting public pressure too. However they keep pull these kinds of stunts and then later apologising for it. My point is: are you actually changing if you keep making the same mistakes and then only saying “sorr…

https://en.community.sonos.com/ask-a-question-228987/firmwar...

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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I don't understand why consumer goods can't use 18650 cells to make devices long-term viable instead of soon-to-be e-waste. There are fewer and fewer devices I'm willing to buy because interchangeable batteries seem to be going away.

Devices want to be portable. the competition for weight and size is very high. It's ironic how as usage of phones increased considerably with social apps, people seem to not have a problem with thicker iPhones for larger battery. The current iPhone 17 Pro is a chonk that would probably have been considered bulky and backwards 10 years ago. The trends decide the standard. Many EVs use 18650 but I can see that for comp…

Eyeware and EVs have different requirements than headphones or speakers. Why do headphones need to be disposable? An 18650, or even a Nokia BL-5C (which might as well be a standardized cell, what with the availability) would give them the ability to have their batteries easily replaced by the end user.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Bose continues to be an extremely consumer-friendly company (especially by today's standards). I remember back when the QC35s were THE noise cancelling headphones, the bridge* snapped on mine, I contacted Bose support asking if it could be fixed and they offered me a free replacement, no questions asked, a year after my warranty ended.

* Is that what it's called? The top part that goes over your head...

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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This is how "end of support" should be handled. Instead of turning devices into e-waste, open-source them and let the community extend their life. Kudos to Bose for setting a good example. More companies should follow this approach - especially as right-to-repair becomes a bigger issue.

This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

I’m a restaurant owner. Starting February I’m gonna spit in your food before serving it.

> Uhhh I’m gonna tell all my friends to stop eating there

I have decided to not spit in your food after all. Praise me.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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A few years back Sonos was going to EoL and brick a huge humber of their "legacy" devices and that those devices would prevent new ones from getting updated. After backlash they reversed their decision and all devices remained functional: https://www.businessinsider.com/sonos-device-support-ceo-apo... However, I wouldn't expect anything from Sonos at this point in time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/1q6oi06/new_firmware...

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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And therein lies the fault, they only do "good" because they were made to do it. Rewarding them for "reluctantly" improving won't change their bad behavior. They should improve because it's the decent thing to do. By doing the decent thing, the praise would have been tenfold, which is the best incentive. (I do appreciate your comment because most companies do live in a moral vacuum.)

no, they were not made to do it. they listened to feedback and did the work. this is better than we get in 99% of cases. try to be nicer and meet them half way instead of living in your ideal world.

In my ideal world, corporate responsibility is a must. Making junk products or killing product updates because they can't sell you the updated version is irresponsible. They listened to feedback because they know their products are overpriced for the market, so they decided to do the right thing, but only after they were called out. That's backwards. Corporations don't know the meaning of nice, only money.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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And therein lies the fault, they only do "good" because they were made to do it. Rewarding them for "reluctantly" improving won't change their bad behavior. They should improve because it's the decent thing to do. By doing the decent thing, the praise would have been tenfold, which is the best incentive. (I do appreciate your comment because most companies do live in a moral vacuum.)

Encouragement of good decisions over bad decisions is how people tend towards making more good decisions. "You didn't inherently make the right choice, so even the right choice you made is actually bad" is just... really, really childish.

Please explain.

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