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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Redacted.sh is a worthy successor, but the average person just doesn’t care about “which release is best” anymore. I use YT Music as a backup but Redacted is my main source of music these days.

Don't you consider it best to ... redact ... your post, as it's the only one mentioning it by name?

It's hardly a secret, you can go on r/trackers where people discuss private trackers for every media type

Re: Backing up Spotify

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> Infra isn’t free. There is a certain irony in people providing copyrighted works for free justifying profiting from these copyrights on the basis that providing the works to others isn’t free.

Cost recovery isn’t profit. Copyright is just a shared delusion, like most laws. They’re just bits on a disk we’re told are special for ~100 years (or whatever the copyright lockup length is in your jurisdiction), after which they’re no longer special (having entered the public domain). I think what is more ironic is we somehow were comfortable being collectively conditioned (manufactured consent?) with the idea that…

I agree completely. Parasites with money like to keep open the legal loopholes for their clever wheeze.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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It is not hard. But please don't misuse it and ruin the fun for everyone. It is nice to be able to use the music relatively easily for hobby projects. My music server has functionality to play tracks from Spotify this way: https://codeberg.org/raphson/music-server/src/branch/main/sp...

Where the magic actually happens: https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot

I wonder how many premium accounts Anna’s Archive had to use to scrape the whole thing. Surely Spotify has scrape protection and wouldn’t allow a single account to stream (download) millions of separate tracks.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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> The Anna’s archive group is ideologically motivated. Anna’s archive business is stealing copyrighted content and selling access to it. It's not ideologically motivated. What ideology is about pirating books and music where most of the people producing this stuff cannot afford to do it full-time? It's not like pirating movies, software and large videogame studios, which is still piracy, but they also make big money…

Agreed. I see far too many people rationalizing piracy as a principled thing to do. Instead of finding ways to improve the market such that the control of content isn't siloed in monopolistic corporations, many celebrate Annas Archive which is itself a more or less monopolistic profit-interested entity. The major difference being that we don't have to pay directly. The cost continues to fall on the writers and artist…

Nothing wrong in rationalizing content sharing; as in rationalizing copyright. But IMO the current form of the copyright for both the technical and the creative works is a cure that is worse than the disease.

Recommending to an individual to work on changing copyright from within the system is, IMO, naive.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Music files (releasing in order of popularity) Increasing or decreasing? IMHO increasing would make more sense, as the most popular music is already mirrored in countless other places. It's the rare stuff that is most in need of preservation. I wonder how much of the content there is AI-generated. Honestly, even as someone who was initially skeptical, I've found some of it to be rather good --- not knowing that it wa…

Same model and same prompt won’t necessarily create the same result, unless I misunderstand how these audio models work.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Anna’s Archive has largely flown under the radar by focusing on books. Even perceived involvement in music piracy puts a much bigger target on their back from far more aggressive actors (RIAA, major labels)

“Good luck, we don’t care.” is their stance, as far as I can tell.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Quoting from their page:

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This is by far the largest music metadata database that is publicly available. For comparison, we have 256 million tracks, while others have 50-150 million. Our data is well-annotated: MusicBrainz has 5 million unique ISRCs, while our database has 186 million.

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If they truly are on a mission to protect world's information from disappearing, they should work with MusicBrainz to get this data on it.

Alternatively, it would be amazing, if they built a MusicBrainz like service around it.

In either case, to make the data truly useful, they'd need to solve the problem on how to match the metadata to a fingerprint used to identify the music tracks, assuming that data is not part of the metadata they collected.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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I want to peek in that metadata collection to see if it could be used to identify the AI slop that's infecting Spotify.

If you could identify a track supposedly by artist X was actually AI slop not created by artist X, you could use that information to skip tracks on (web) music players, for example.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Not that we should, but it's technically feasible to have a music streaming server with the torrent as the backend, and selectively download the part of the torrent in respond to on-demand streaming request from the client.

I recently got into the whole homelab *arr stack for things like movies and tv and while I know options exist for music I just don’t see the need yet price-wise. Spotify is still just cheap enough for me to not care enough. We’ll see how long this holds. That being said it’s no secret Spotify and other streaming services barely pay even popular artists. Artists make money from live shows and merch. The fact that thei…

I'm paying for youtube music, but on the side I started buying records in bandcamp directly from artists and putting them in my jellyfin library. I do use lidarr for some older tracks. I think the ecosystem is starting to look good enough, where you can have your own personal spotify.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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It's not the bits that are copyrighted, it's the performance and the creative work. Your savings account is just bits on a disk, yet presumably it represents value that you worked for and which belongs to you to do with what you wish.

> Your savings account is just bits on a disk, yet presumably it represents value that you worked for and which belongs to you to do with what you wish. That's another example of the shared delusion, since yes, we tell eachother it represents labor and resources, and the market engages in allocation somewhat efficiently, and so the money is a pretty accurate representation of the value of labor and the value of resou…

„Shared delusion“ - just another term for „social contract“?
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