Where did the "libREated" in the title come from?
It was a typo in the GH repo description, fixed it.
AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem
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Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem
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That’s not part of the Bluetooth spec to report battery power for three separate batteries on one device. Where would it be reported to?
Yes, that's my point.
If it’s not part of the BT spec - how is Apple going to report three battery levels in a way that’s compatible with non Apple devices?
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
Airpods already do this all... They support HFP and A2DP and AVRCP, and properly, including all of those features working on android phones and proper switching between them as needed...
The argument (which I assume you deliberately ignored) is that those features, like battery reporting and multi device pairing, are being arbitrarily restricted by Apple to maintain a proprietary ecosystem. How you could argue that this is a good thing tells me you're either too drunk on the corporate kool-aid or that you have some financial incentive to ignore the obvious problems with these facts. Either way this i…
So show me in the spec where one BT device as seen by the host can report the battery of three different battery levels - ie the case and two ear pieces.
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#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is that on Apple instead of the hundreds of other manufacturers and Google? If Google wants a better ecosystem, it’s on them since according to them Android was suppose to be the “definition of open”.
Because while Android is "open", Google has no carrot (Verizon can't charge for OTT messaging and has no major incentive to push it), and no stick (pushing too hard will draw regulators' attention again) RCS has been stuck in limbo-hell for several years, and I expect it to stay that way (to your point, I expect it to stay that way even if Apple chips in)
Google has a big stick - Google Play Services. They use it all of the time to get manufacturers to do what they want.
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#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why use Bluetooth at all if they don't actually use it properly? Because they needed a way to get audio to the AirPods wirelessly and to work with their devices? That’s a pretty good reason to use Bluetooth. I doubt they got together and tried to scheme a way to break Bluetooth in this one tiny little way for vendor lock in. You can use the basic AirPod features with other Bluetooth devices. It’s just these extende…
It reminds me of the USB keyboard extender that came with old Macs. There’s a little notch in the socket so you can only use it with Apple keyboards. At the time I thought it was a petty way of preventing you from using it with any other device, but apparently the reason they didn’t want you to use it with other devices is because the cable didn’t comply with the USB spec. Some pictures here: https://www.reddit.com/r…
Did you even bother about reading the comments on your own citation?
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Apple killed flash and an alternative has not emerged decades later. Please don't give these pricks ideas.
Are HTML5 video, canvas and WebGL not replacements? What in particular do you feel has not been replaced?
Does HTLM5 and WebGL allow all the same security holes and waste as much energy as Flash? Hmmm? Sounds like it’s not a replacement then.
Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem
#407Earlier quoted context omitted.
The argument (which I assume you deliberately ignored) is that those features, like battery reporting and multi device pairing, are being arbitrarily restricted by Apple to maintain a proprietary ecosystem. How you could argue that this is a good thing tells me you're either too drunk on the corporate kool-aid or that you have some financial incentive to ignore the obvious problems with these facts. Either way this i…
So show me in the spec where one BT device as seen by the host can report the battery of three different battery levels - ie the case and two ear pieces.
The obvious solution would be to report the lowest number, as multiple replies to you have already proposed, but you again chose to ignore because it doesn't serve your agenda.
This entire thread started with you claiming Apple was somehow trying to prevent issues by hiding these features, and you've twice tried to move the goalposts to irrelevant points when given evidence to the contrary.
If you can't even defend your original position then I have no interest in continuing a discussion with Apple's most useful idiot.
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#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
good god man, just accept that this is objectively an EXTREMELY easy thing to do for anyone. Yes theoretically there are things that are easier for OSS devs than large companies, THIS AIN'T ONE OF THEM. Ugh, trillion dollar market value doesn't mean they are incapable of making a basic android app. Check their move to ios app if you have any doubts.
It doesn’t matter how frustrated you get or how many times you write capital letters, Apple is a private company and can do exactly what they want to do. If you would like Apple to do your bidding, acquire a controlling interest - it’s public so there’s nothing stopping you.
> acquire a controlling interest - it’s public so there’s nothing stopping you.
Except for the biggest obstacle of it all in capitalism: capital.
If that's the only way anyone can try to change companies' behaviours we are in a lot of trouble :)
Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem
#409Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't report battery status to non-Apple devices. This is a pretty basic feature and without this I wouldn't consider them to perform "on par" with other Bluetooth headphones.
Also if the README is to be believed the following are also hidden behind an Apple DID (not driver): - Multi-device Connectivity - Accessibility Settings and Hearing Aid While the following are exclusive to Apple devices for market reasons: - Receive Battery Information - Set/Receive ANC Modes - Set Adaptive Audio Noise settings - Receive In-Ear detection Status - Personalized Volume (use at your own risk - might ran…
I wonder how well that conversation detection works. Does it really help in a loud environment?
As a neurodivergent person I lack the innate human skill to filter voices out of a cacaphony of noise so loud bars etc are hell. There also the "talking with earphones in is rude" but that's an issue that can just be explained.
Needing root to enable it is a major deal-breaker though :( and moving to an iPhone is impossible for me. Too much stuff that's not supported.
Re: AirPods libreated from Apple's ecosystem
#410From a bit further down the page > Bluetooth DID (Device Identification) Hook > Turns out, if you change the manufacturerid to that of Apple, you get access to several special features! I hope Apple gets slammed hard by some regulatory body. Apparently there's absolutely zero magic reasons why their airpods are unable to connect to non-Apple devices; pretend you're an iPhone and you're in. EDIT: read "unable to conne…
They’re being slammed, the DMA is not going away. Just a few weeks ago, Apple had their latest court hearing. https://fsfe.org/news/2025/news-20251015-01.en.html
Well, the EU is trying to undermine its own GDPR now in an attempt to suck up to Trump :(
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45882203
And DMA/DSA are also getting nerfed :(