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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

gnarlouse wrote: post #398
tormeh wrote: post #327

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Also it's incompatible with makeup and messes up your hair. So it's a dead product for like 60% of the working age population.

Maybe stop wearing makeup, it's bad for your skin and doesn't make you better at your job unless your job is BS anyway. Legacy product of a chauvinist era. Furthermore, your argument means all VR headsets are inherently anti-female, which is the craziest take I've ever heard.

If your product needs people to stop wearing makeup and agreeing that it's chauvinistic, it's dead in the water.

Just admit there is nowhere near the needed public excitement or uptake about any AR/VR headset, esp. the Apple Vision Pro which has pretty much nothing to do on it but watch movies and TV and use the laptop / desktop you already own

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by dcreater »

paxys wrote: post #64

Appointing John Ternus is going to be a pretty clear indicator to investors that Apple plans on continuing its iterative hardware, supply chain and operations focus and isn't looking to shake things up from a product or vision standpoint. Which may be the best move for the company (this strategy has definitely worked wonders for the last decade and a half), but I can't help feel that among all the large tech companie…

You're saying as if it's a bad thing. We need new blood. Thank god IBM Failed and we got microsoft /hp/apple. Now it's time for the next wave to make the current Dinos go extinct

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by gnarlouse »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #401
gnarlouse wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe stop wearing makeup, it's bad for your skin and doesn't make you better at your job unless your job is BS anyway. Legacy product of a chauvinist era. Furthermore, your argument means all VR headsets are inherently anti-female, which is the craziest take I've ever heard.

If your product needs people to stop wearing makeup and agreeing that it's chauvinistic, it's dead in the water. Just admit there is nowhere near the needed public excitement or uptake about any AR/VR headset, esp. the Apple Vision Pro which has pretty much nothing to do on it but watch movies and TV and use the laptop / desktop you already own

Roughly $20-30B in investment by Apple to build the Apple Vision Pro over roughly the course of half a decade is disagreeing with you. That's an insane investment into a product category with "no public excitement or uptake about any AR/VR headset."

I didn't bring up makeup, btw. I just thought it was an absurd argument. It has nothing to do with whether the product succeeds or fails in the long run, which is precisely what I'm talking about.

Yes, the AVP store is pretty scant at the present moment. But regardless, I would absolutely explore the feasibility of replacing my TV, my desktop monitors with an AR/VR headset if it met the tech specs I listed above. I'd much rather have a 70' screen viewing experience for movies, or gaming.

Btw, why did Valve announce the Steam Frame this last week if the AR/VR market is dead? Why are companies like Virtuix, Disney developing omnidirectional treadmills for more physical VR exploration? Why are companies like Meta working to develop surface electromyography tech, electro-tactile solutions to simulate the sensation of touching physical objects in VR?

Maybe all this money being spent on a non-existent market segment is a product of a fucked economic hierarchy where the rich have so much money they can blow it all on projects that will never reach massive scale, which is an argument I'd actually listen to.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by bigyabai »

trenchpilgrim wrote: post #358
bdangubic wrote: post #349

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Given how hot my Mac is when I do anything they’d need Pacific Ocean to cool that data center :)

My Apple Sillicon macbooks are the coolest running computers I've had in decades. Something might be wrong with your cooling system.

Most Macs (both Intel and Apple Silicon) refuse to thermal-throttle until they reach the junction temp.

Both you and the parent can be correct, here; many Macs are quite cool at idle, but also throttle much slower than equivalent Intel or AMD chips under load.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by mikeyouse »

rkomorn wrote: post #268
mikeyouse wrote: post #102

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He had a much more treatable and slowly growing variety of pancreatic cancer - it was a neuroendocrine cancer in his pancreas (an islet cell tumor). The 5-yr survival rate for stage 1/2 is something like 95%, and even stage 4 is still around a 25%. The more common and deadly pancreatic cancer you’re thinking of has a 5yr survival rate of under 15% and under 3% if it’s advanced to stage 4. If he had received real care…

I stand corrected! Not moving goalposts, but on another note: He refused regular treatment for 9 months, for an allegedly slow-growing type of cancer? That still doesn't sound that crazy, especially given he lived another 8 years.

Right - but he only lived 8 more years because by the time he’d had surgery, the cancer had metastasized to his liver which is much more difficult to treat.

Per this paper, with surgery and treatment, a 50yr old man diagnosed with grades 1/2, stage 1 pnet tumor, has a median additional lifespan of 23 years. You can do the regression yourself for all of his characteristics but there’s no reason as one of the wealthiest people on earth that he couldn’t have lived to old-age.

https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1016/j.clinre.2018.08....

Think of cancer like trying to stop an exponential growth curve. Waiting months for treatment can mean billions or trillions of additional cancer cells you need to clear. And instead of being able to carve them out of one location, they’re now all over your body requiring systematic poisoning.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by nsagent »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #376
pavlov wrote: post #345

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The M-series chips are a continuation of the in-house chip design strategy that Steve Jobs initiated in 2008 when Apple acquired P.A.Semi. So while Cook deserves credit for execution, the roadmap was laid in place by his predecessor.

In the startup and business world you reward execution not ideas. Ideas are easy. I have an idea for a memristor based neural processor for low power on device AI, but its worthless because I dont have the 9 billion dollars to realize this idea...

> Ideas are easy.

Let's not get into absolutes. Ideas can be as hard or harder than execution. Not many will claim ideas like Special Relativity are easy to come by.

It really depends on the idea and what you're executing. Often in business both the idea and the execution have to work out to captialize. In this case Jobs might have set the direction and Cook capitalized. Both deserve a share of the credit.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by xandrius »

amelius wrote: post #95
usui wrote: post #10

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How serious is this comment? As a thought experiment, this intrigues me. Imagine Steve Wozniak suddenly pops in as CEO. What might happen to the company in the following years?

With Woz: - Apple M-series CPUs become fully documented - iOS is ditched. iPhones and MacBooks now run the same OS - no developer fees - fixed price to have an app in the App store - App store and content filters become orthogonal. Anyone can start an app store. Anyone can make content filters. - Apple starts releasing stuff for the maker-community such as Apple 3D printers

And he's out in a moment as profits go down almost overnight.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

rzerowan wrote: post #219
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #194

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Maybe they tried and didn’t find that they could be competitive with the hundreds of Chinese EV producers. The market was crowded, and they didn’t see what special value they could add? I mean, it’s already cliche that xiaomi decides to release one, but they released a heat pump as well, their stores in the mall are pretty confusing.

Interestingly enough if apple really wanted they could acquihire one of the currrent EV brands and do a beats/siri on it. Theres probably a lot of churn currently before the field stabilises , and probably the entry point for a new entrant would be currently closing.

What value could apple add though? They would just be diluting their brand. Even the beats acquisition is confusing.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by stego-tech »

michelb wrote: post #323
stego-tech wrote: post #184

He did good, but he’s never really had a clear vision for the ecosystem. Lots of little projects that claim to change the world, but never see momentum behind them to execute properly (Vision Pro, their Gaming push, Fitness+, expanding the iPhone lineup, etc), and has failed similarly on business execution (failing to buy or pay Masimo, half-hearted pivots to smart speakers and AI to appease shareholders). Liquid Gla…

I think Cook did an awesome job taking the reins at Apple. I can understand Cook not being a 'product visionary' as Jobs was (although Jobs also delivered some real stinkers), don't forget some of the people below Cook are still fossils from the Jobs era. I have no insight in the Apple of today, but they seem spread incredibly thin and all products and services are suffering from it. They don't seem to have an overar…

Oh, don't mistake my "time for him to go" opinion with my opinion of his tenure as a whole. By the major measures, Cook has done a phenomenal job steering the company through its post-Jobs era, creating a lot of growth in the organization and making immensely successful pivots ahead of the market attitude (like its pivot to in-house hardware and away from Intel/Qualcomm). I have a myriad of critiques, sure, but even a layman like me acknowledges that he's done an A-level job running this juggernaut to its current peaks.

I just think he can't steer/lead it through the tumultuous next decade, is all, and that a newer leader with a clearer vision is needed to run the show at this juncture.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by stinkbeetle »

creer wrote: post #388
stinkbeetle wrote: post #166

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No, Apple had been doing their own silicon (presumably you mean for their phones) while Jobs was still CEO, and he bought PA Semi in 2008 which put them on the path to do their own CPU cores (iPhone 5 with Swift CPU was released the year after he died so he'd obviously seen the core design process through from the beginning to likely initial tape-out or very close to).

"Put them on the path" is nothing compared to the plan and decision to switch CPUs. Any CPU family switch is a giant bet with massive implementations issues. Exactly like the other CPU family switches were massive bets (although they did prepare the following ones - for sure). PA Semi was only a tiny step in that direction. Credit to Cook then.

This is moving the goalposts to somewhere... which also appears to be not Cook. Apple came out with Apple silicon and switched to Apple CPU cores under Jobs.

Jobs oversaw Apple silicon, Jobs switched to using Apple CPU cores.

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