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Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by aids_bomb »

jfewhfuehg wrote: post #329
tionate wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It mentions DeepMind but also says Research Ready, which is the program funded by DeepMind but run by unis for disadvantaged students. That said I have no idea how competitive this program is.

>disadvantaged students That's what it says on paper but that's not reality. If you are asian you are suddenly not disadvantaged even if you are an immigrant. It is just legal racism. The fact that employers even get to play games like this tells you a lot about our current situation ironically.

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Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by kelipso »

windowshopping wrote: post #62

Two initial thoughts: 1. This author's writing is extremely, uncommonly good. Good enough to write a book and have it sell. "Competing with the past of the economy," "residual behaviour of a world that treated labour as sacred," "immigration without immigrants" -- there are many elegant turns of phrase here. This is a very skilled writer. 2. His resume is designed poorly. Have a look. I'm not surprised his job search…

The resume design is incredibly poor. It’s a 90% likely instant reject from me just from the resume. It looks like a resume from someone who does not know what they are doing. How hard is it to copy a resume template from google, seriously…

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by derwiki »

ernst_klim wrote: post #312
lisbbb wrote: post #179

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I don't see the point of applying for "hundreds of jobs." I think use the time to network with real people and forget about Indeed or whatever because those jobs are mostly fake anyways.

> I think use the time to network with real people It kinda doesn't work these days. One of the points of DEI was to eliminate the nepotism hiring (and it's kinda good if the hiring wasn't so broken), so these days referrals don't mean shit unless you're referred by someone high-ranked enough. I've literally seen people being autorejected after being referred by team-leads these days.

I was auto rejected from a publicly traded company through internal referral because I applied to a remote position. My friend told me the recruiter told her that position wasn’t available to SF residents, only engineers in LCOL areas.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by derwiki »

jfewhfuehg wrote: post #333
mizzao wrote: post #285

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It didn't have LLM smell to me, at all. LLM-written essays are often very fluffy because expanding a prompt into more words often produces lots of air — but this one felt very "dense" with lots of ideas per capita.

You realise you can change the writing style and not rely on the default?

Or give it samples of your writing

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by tartoran »

arthurcolle wrote: post #51
cube00 wrote: post #9

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My company had an onshore hiring freeze, while still hiring offshore. C-suite had the nerve in an all hands to say they were expanding offshore because there was a "local talent shortage", all while an onshore hiring freeze was still in effect. This wasn't even a secret; in our stand ups our immediate manager said that they were blocked from hiring onshore and only had offshore quota available if they wanted any more…

Why are executives allowed to lie, and the rest of us have to just deal with it? At some point the chickens come home to roost

Because they can? Because we don't do anything about it?

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by aryonoco »

ghostpepper wrote: post #96
windowshopping wrote: post #62

Two initial thoughts: 1. This author's writing is extremely, uncommonly good. Good enough to write a book and have it sell. "Competing with the past of the economy," "residual behaviour of a world that treated labour as sacred," "immigration without immigrants" -- there are many elegant turns of phrase here. This is a very skilled writer. 2. His resume is designed poorly. Have a look. I'm not surprised his job search…

Agreed; uncommonly good writing, especially for someone with a CS degree.

20 odd years ago when I went to do a CS degree, I discovered that the university had these beautiful buildings called “libraries” and they were filled with all sorts of amazing books! I ended up splitting my time roughly evenly between learning C, SQL and Java and devouring every 19th century English literature book I could get my hands on.

I can’t claim to write as well, but weirdos like us do exist.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by coolThingsFirst »

jfewhfuehg wrote: post #335
ah27182 wrote: post #332

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Are you going to address what he said or just continue to spew blatantly racist ad hominems?

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Even as DEI hire, DeepMind would get thousands upon thousands of applicants so he would still need to better than the other applicants.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by coolThingsFirst »

themanmaran wrote: post #22

Honestly I think "applying for jobs" is becoming a thing of the past. From the employer side, it's becoming incredibly difficult to find qualified inbound candidates. The main issues is AI + non-US spam. Every job listing we post attracts ~200 applicants, and maybe 5 US based humans. It's a full time job to wade through the spam to find the actual people, especially when a lot of people are lying about location / exp…

200 resumes aren't a ton and can be read in a day.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by tracker1 »

Honestly, it just reminds me of 2000-2002 or so... Seemed to hit the coastal cities before here in Phoenix, but it got bad here right after 9/11 and I had trouble finding any work for close to a year. I was able to start working again for half what I was making before almost a year later... I'd done a handful of projects, but nothing solid at the time.

I spent most of my free time reading and learning as much as I could. I learned C# offline from "The Complete Reference" and the beta command line compiler as I didn't even have consistent internet access.

It was a rough, severely depressing time in my life. It absolutely sucks. Right now, I'm working under a contract role that I like, but zero benefits, which is a problem financially/medically. And the job market is rough (already took a 35% pay cut) just to keep working.

All I can suggest is stick to it, stay busy as much as you can and focus on work-adjacent hobby projects as much as you can. As others have pointed out, maybe try your hand at writing. There's always room for good technical writing out there, though it doesn't always pay the best, it can help your career and can be good for supplemental income.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by nine_zeros »

frm88 wrote: post #341
nine_zeros wrote: post #3

> The twentieth century spent a lot of intellectual and moral effort glorifying labour because economies needed people to show up every day. The twenty-first century is starting to build machines and systems that do not need quite as many of us. And herein lies the real, consitent, and real anxiety among the youth - leading to lower birth rates. I myself feel the same. And then I look at the elected corrupt pedophile…

What strikes me most with this quote is that (consistent) labour is very much a defining, if not the defining parameter in all our cultures and the author highlights this later on with data from China etc. I feel we might have a problem with the emphasis on that value in the future. If we think automation through to it's extreme and accept a growing world population and worsening climate effects, we've got to shift c…

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