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Even after Reagan's policies how do your points hold?
Because we are counting people's wealth in significant fractions of a trillion dollars and young people around the world cannot afford homes no more?
Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits
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Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits
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How so?
Thought experiment - Startrek replicators are real. This basically means almost everything can be built without human involvement. The guy who owns the replicators is the richest. The wealth gap is so massive you get revolts (because we're educated, not serfs, right?) So then government needs to step in. Either tax->ubi?, socialize it, or make it a state asset? Regardless, that's the goal of AGI/robotics/etc.
This never happens. It's not the relative wealth gap that creates revolts it's the poverty/bad conditions in absolute terms.
If the lower class conditions improve, even just a little bit, there is no revolt.
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> It will benefit all people but it will disproportionally benefit more rich people. Yes: you'll be homeless and living under a bridge, but you'll have an LLM therapist on your phone to console you. That's a benefit!
No they don't want that, because it could lead to an uprising against them. They want us provided with the essentials in exchange for being dutiful workers, so we have something to lose. Everyone should live in pods stacked together, eat insects, not drive our own automobiles around or fly places, we should be able to get our entertainment and everything to keep ourselves happy from their subscription entertainment s…
Yes of course capitalists love when economy is bad. Sorry, these dystopic visions do not pass even simplest smell test.
Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits
#404I'd love to see those "gigantic benefits". Currently, the only positive thing about LLMs I hear regularly is that it made people more productive. They don't get paid more (of course), they're just more productive.
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I found the comment to be quite sober and realistic. Other than usage of "they want" as a monolith group it's pretty accurate.
> live in pods stacked together,
... the housing crisis? Cause disputed, seems limited to cities, may hinge on zoning. Who are the "they"?
> eat insects,
... so here "they" are vegans, climate warriors?
> not drive our own automobiles around
... self driving cars, not mandatory and not very successful. Musk's vision, so this one would fit, if it was happening.
> or fly places
... climate regulations?
Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits
#406Every bubble looks obvious in hindsight. The dot-com crash left behind Amazon and Google. The crypto crash left behind Coinbase and a few real revenue generating companies. If this is the AI bubble, then the survivors are going to look very obvious in a decade, we just don’t know which ones yet.
> The crypto crash left behind Coinbase and a few real revenue generating companies. A lot of us clocked the crypto bullshit waaaay before the crash.
I'm sorry what crash are you talking about?
Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits
#407Remind me again why we need investors to fund bad ideas? The whole premise of western capitalism is that investors can better align with the needs of the society and the current technological reality.
If the investors aren't the gurus we make them to be, we might as well do with a planning committee. We could actually end up with more diversified research.
"Under socialism, a lot of experimental ideas get funded, the good ideas and the bad ideas. And the planning committee have a hard time in the middle of this excitement, distinguishing between the good ideas and the bad ideas. ... But that doesn't mean anything that is happening isn't real."
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#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are probably a lot of cool and useful things you could do with a bunch of data centers full of GPUs. - better weather forecasts - modeling intermittent generation on the grid to get more solar online - drug discovery - economic modeling - low cost streaming games - simulation of all types
- cloud gaming service? :D
Not to mean that we're still nowhere near close to solving the broadband coverage problem, especially in less developed countries like the US and most of the third world. If anything, it seems like we're moving towards satellite internet and cellular for areas outside of the urban centers, and those are terrible for latency-sensitive applications like game streaming.
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#409Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits
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i have to say I'm a little disgusted by these statements. LLMs are useful for many problems, but is there really a conceivable path of them making progress into fighting the countless cancers tormenting humanity?
My framing device: if you had LLMs in the 1500s, how would that help Copernicus determine the orbits of the planets? Maybe through dumb chance, but creating a well reasoned model of the universe required new observations and the ability to interpret the data from a different point of view.
They already had many "explanations" and models for why the planets were seemingly moving back and forth in the sky during the year. Their models were more complicated than necessary simply because they didn't want to consider the different premise.