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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by DanielHB »

reeredfdfdf wrote: post #84

Most educated Iranians hate their government. The problem is that a revolution isn't easy when the government has all the guns, and the military & revolutionary guard remain loyal, and have no problem with shooting masses of innocent civilians to retain their power. Sanctions that worsen things for ordinary people really isn't going to change much in countries like this. It would be much more productive to try turn t…

I always thought the main goal of sanctions was to deprive the sanctioned governments of income which in turns makes it harder for them to cause problems externally and hold power internally.

And by "hold power internally" I don't mean population uprising, I mean to keep the factions within the government (especially the military) united under the leadership by buying them out.

I believe increased population unhappiness is more of a side-effect that can be both beneficial (if it incites anti-government sentiment) or detrimental (if it incites nationalism) to the country imposing sanctions.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

iamshs wrote: post #215

Hit me in the feels. There used to be an amateur Russian beatmaker who I used to follow, it was so sad to see him drop off similarly. His paypal was cut off. I used to watch his IG lives a lot, loved the way he used to develop his beats. Very novel.

> Hit me in the feels.

Like burying a child feels, or your beatmaker got drafted?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by olelele »

Draiken wrote: post #328
randomNumber7 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only real way to withdraw consent would be political violence. The key upside of democracy imo is then that most people do not see a reason to use violence; They can vote and never need to withdraw consent that extremely.

And we rarely see meaningful change anywhere because electing politicians is barely connected to the actual outcomes people want. Now we have a pacified populace that allows corruption to run freely and keeps repeating "violence is never the answer" while forgetting meaningful change almost always requires it. Never forget we wouldn't even have weekends if people hadn't died for it. I wish we never needed violence bu…

This. The fact that people in Europe and the US had to fight tooth and nail for workers rights and were opposed by a conglomerate of government force, corporate powers and organized crime gets all to easily forgotten.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by sesm »

wojciii wrote: post #138
aarroyoc wrote: post #19

These sanctions are not really effective. I think Cuba is the country that has had them for the most amount of time and... Nothing changed. Instead they force them to develop in house tech which may be better for them in the long term

Ukrainian sanctions work. Ask a russian about the price of fuel. The European sanctions are more of a joke. I you want to Ukraine to win donate to them directly instead of waiting for the cowardly politicians to get their act together.

You can check prices for the largest gas station network here (table in the middle): https://lukoilazs.ru/category/stoimost-benzina-na-segodnya/

Prices are in RUB/L, 1 USD ~ 80 RUB, 1 EUR ~ 100 RUB.

Then make your own conclusion.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by philipwhiuk »

mvdtnz wrote: post #222
notjosh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

your comment is helpful context, especially as a foreigner. but would you be able to edit the "pounding in the ass" phrase out in future when referring to prison? thank you <3

Don't police other people's language.

Wasn't that what OP was doing?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by olelele »

1718627440 wrote: post #124
Devasta wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything I'd say it has the opposite of the intended effect sometimes. Like, during WW2 the UK was being bombed and ration books and supply shortages were the order of the day. They look back on their endurance of the conditions inflicted upon them as a source of national pride, have to imagine that is the case for many in the sanctioned countries too.

The bombing of Nazi Germany in return had the same effect. Due you think people will flock to an enemy, that bombs them every night? No, they will put all their strength into trying to prevent the bombs from falling down in the first place.

As did the bombings of North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by imiric »

bez00m wrote: post #149

As someone who also sees this kind of messages fairly often, I always wondered about companies/individuals who voluntarily (not being forced by law, that's another story) block their users by IPs coming from bad countries... The message always goes along the lines of "you're murderer and rapist, we hate you". I still need to find a person who managed to change their political stance after seeing something similar. I…

> I always wondered about companies/individuals who voluntarily [...] block their users by IPs coming from bad countries

The problem is not with "bad" countries.

The problem is when a large amount of abusive traffic comes from a handful of countries, it's technically easier to block entire IP ranges and ASNs, than to filter and allow the small amount of well-behaved clients while blocking the rest. This is especially the case when the company has no commercial presence in these countries.

To be fair, the scenario you describe where countries are blocked purely out of political or personal reasons does exist, and I agree that it's morally wrong, even if it's the prerogative of any individual or company who they want to provide service to. But in my experience the blocking is usually motivated by abuse.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by philipwhiuk »

bez00m wrote: post #149

As someone who also sees this kind of messages fairly often, I always wondered about companies/individuals who voluntarily (not being forced by law, that's another story) block their users by IPs coming from bad countries... The message always goes along the lines of "you're murderer and rapist, we hate you". I still need to find a person who managed to change their political stance after seeing something similar. I…

> As someone who also sees this kind of messages fairly often, I always wondered about companies/individuals who voluntarily (not being forced by law, that's another story) block their users by IPs coming from bad countries...

As a service owner currently looking at adding widescale blocks based on location... it's not a global business, so the downside of blocking an entire country is functionally zero and the upside of easily removing a tonne of compromised machines from the 'can try to DDoS us' pool is noticeable.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by perching_aix »

holowoodman wrote: post #375
m000 wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> the active administration is chosen by like a third of the voting population > Not really. Yes, REALLY. In fact it can be even worse. See the latest (June 2023) elections in Greece [1] (supposedly the cradle of democracy): First party got a 40.56% on a 53.74% turnout. I.e. around 22% of the electorate. Yet, this was adequate to yield a solid parliamental majority for 4 years. Also mind that the election system had…

Low turnout means non-voters just don't care, or that they find no palpable option on the ballot sheet. In any case, the non-voters are OK with whatever party might win, because otherwise they should have made their vote or created a political party that might be agreeable to them.

Which is still distinct from actively choosing something. Indifference is not the same active approval, precisely because it goes both ways. So it is still incorrect to state that "they chose that". They chose indifference.

One can still fault them of course, but it is a distinct category, and it is not at all a clear sign of consent, if even the active choice ever was.

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