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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by zoeysmithe »

jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

There's nowhere to go with phones than thinner if you aren't doing folding. Thinness has practical value but past a certain point, probably not very much.

Marketing will create hype and desire and the feeling of exclusiveness. Those will lead to sales.

Not every big change is an actual innovation. A lot if just engineering sales via these methods, which aren't very different than fashion, jewelry, or luxury cars.

I might get one because I'm always a bit forced to follow the curve and can't afford to look 'backwards' or 'old fashioned' to stakeholders in the workplace, people in my life, etc who's good side I need to stay on who believe in the above dynamic.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by scrlk »

minimaxir wrote: post #397

So there's one feature the Air is missing according to a deep dive of the Compare sheet ( https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ ): The Air does not support mmWave cellular connectivity, while the other models (and previous models going back awhile) do support it. That is...weird? Why would the Air's design prevent that?

The C1 modem didn't support mmWave and I assume it's the same case with the C1X.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by cobbal »

shuckles wrote: post #344
davidclark wrote: post #330

“Thinnest” should be measured by the thickest slice for a given dimension. I have an iPhone 11 which also has a camera bump and the experience of typing while the phone is on a flat surface is laughably annoying. For a company that prides itself on design aesthetics, it is honestly an embarrassing miss.

Genuinely curious: why do you often find yourself typing on the phone resting on a flat surface? I can’t think of a single time where that’s been the best way to handle my device.

I do this all the time, often when I'm at a desk or table. I had to get a bulky case for my iPhone just so it didn't unstably contact at only 2 points and rock with each tap.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by seec »

seydor wrote: post #15
beoberha wrote: post #6

Just do not understand the market for this one. The current size of phones is a solved problem. Nobody is asking for these things to be thinner. Most people use cases and are happy to add some thickness for battery life. Besides, the camera "plateau" makes it all futile.

iphones are also a fashion accessory. lots of people will buy it for its distinctiveness

Bingo !

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by orionsbelt »

minimaxir wrote: post #397

So there's one feature the Air is missing according to a deep dive of the Compare sheet ( https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ ): The Air does not support mmWave cellular connectivity, while the other models (and previous models going back awhile) do support it. That is...weird? Why would the Air's design prevent that?

I’d guess they are trying to limit power draw given the smaller battery. It’s a trade off.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by epolanski »

Nition wrote: post #249

It's more the other two dimensions that I want shrunk. Did anyone think their phone was too thick to fit in their pocket?

No, but if I recall correctly the mini didn't sell as well as they wanted.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by zoeysmithe »

ramesh31 wrote: post #209
jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

>"Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras." I have this recurring vision of what could have been if we never lost Steve before the industry went whole hog in on the camera bump fad. It goes something like this: SCENE: Steve Jobs' office on the eve of the iPhone 7 release "Hey St…

Firing people willy-nilly as an admirable quality is a totally insane thing to look up to.

Jobs's "design horse-sense" was also strongly against the screen size you take for granted as well.

Maybe its time to put away these weird hagiographies.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by dmix »

JBiserkov wrote: post #120
scblock wrote: post #99

That is the dumbest side profile I have ever seen. The camera bump and camera together are thicker than the rest of this thing. By its design it now demands a massive case or just won't ever sit even reasonably flat on a table. Ridiculous.

"Just" put an magsafe battery on the back. 1. Create a problem. 2. Sell the solution. 3. Profit.

If it runs all day like they claim that probably won't be a big seller.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by busymom0 »

baby wrote: post #225
aurareturn wrote: post #58

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

IMO it's underwhelming considering folding phones have been out for many years now and we still don't have a folding iPhone. What are the PMs doing at Apple.

I know they have been out for a while but I have yet to see a single one in person. They just don't make much of the market.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by sixothree »

elAhmo wrote: post #150

My old 13 pro is quite thin and uncomfortable to hold in hand without a case. Why would someone push so hard for a thinner phone? Boosting about extra battery if SIM slot is removed, while doing insane over-engineering to shave a few millimeters is quite a tell. I know Apple is super successful and will have another great set of quarters, but this is quite disappointing.

I have the 13 pro. I personally find it quite heavy (quite a thwack when you drop it) or just tension when you wear shorts for example. That said, I have zero interest in this phone.
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