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post #292

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> here are (many) companies with revenues greater than most countries IS that true? What do you define as the revenue of a country? Tax revenues? That is just the government. GDP/GNP/GNI? That comparison for that should be profit, and only a handful of really big companies (Saudi Aramco, Apple, that sort of size) have a profit as large as the GDP of mid-size middle income countries (e.g. Sri Lanka) or small rich coun…

Why would GDP be the proxy for a country's profit? If I pay someone to build a house and another person to tear that house down, both activities contribute to GDP while producing nothing of tangible value.

But they spent the money you paid them and it stimulated the economy! We assume value was created elsewhere. /s

Econ is a crock.

Re: 996

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post #279

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As long as the companies in question aren't monopolies on violence, it's a complete non-issue. So with that in mind, why would any sane person want to impose such an inefficient mechanism to allocate resources and make decisions within a company or corporation? The only good thing about democracy in the context of a state, after all, is that every other alternative is worse. But that is strictly because of the fundam…

You should educate yourself about corporate violence both inside and outside the US - the use of intimidation and murder for strike breaking, the role the Pinkerton agency, the original meaning of "banana republic." It's tragic - but not accidental - there's no mention of any of this in schools or any public memory of it.

It's tragic, but it was also illegal, and that's a crucial distinction.

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violence is defined specifically as the use of physical force, and I expect the other commentator you're replying to specifically chose that word for a reason.

No, it isn't. Every single definition of violence includes forms other than just physical.

The World Health Organization (WHO) defines violence as "the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation

Re: 996

#405
Speaking as someone who has worked in a role which legitimately requires weeks of intense work (running large deals, where you're a Dune-style "mentat" about every aspect of a relationship)... these are absolutely not sustainable and the quality of your work starts to fall apart after a certain point....

It's biologically impossible to generate good long term results form 996 or 007.

Re: 996

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Jokes aside yes people work very hard on things, even for years, if they believe in them. From dawn to dusk; of their own free will. Work being bad is simply a slave mentality. It is because the slave does not get any return on their effort; only sustenance.

So you haven't then?

If Garden you mean Software then yes :)

Re: 996

#407
I won't even consider a role where I'd have to occasionally be on call, let alone 996.

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post #193

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First: regular employees are already taking the risk of being jobless some time in the future when joining startups. Second: there is no CEO in tech taking a smaller salary than their employees.

Counterpoint: is that because to become a CEO one most first obtain money to fund themselves and others? An employee has the opposite arrangement, they find a job to receive money. A CEO finds money to have a job.

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Re: 996

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post #177

996 is just theater for investors. Saw this happening even at YC companies. There was always that stupid expectation of overworking, staying until 9. The reality is that people twiddle thumbs. And the disorganization and micromanagement power plays are enough to negate any additional worked hour. This ranges from pure disorganization in terms of what to build to having 3 hour meetings with the whole fucking company w…

what do you mean "even at YC companies" - they are the first to jump on any bandwagon hype train VC's are on.

I mean, yeah.

I just said it because this website belongs to YC.

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