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Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by bgwalter »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

I realize this might be satire. If not, you are using the same aggressive strategy of turning the tables as Palantir:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/08/palantir-...

Most people do want to deny their data, as we have recently seen in various DOGE backlashes.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by calmbonsai »

bilsbie wrote: post #381

Offshoot topic but I had an idea for LLM privacy. What if the first layer (or couple layers) were processed locally on the users machine and then it goes to the provider to process the remaining layers. You could also process the last layer on the users machine. It’s hard to say what kind of privacy this gives users. I don’t think they could reverse out exactly what the input was.

This is intriguing. I've been working on gestalt measurements of LLM 'skew' and thought this sort of scenario might be possible.

Combine that workflow with homomorphic encryption and you've got a reasonable privacy moat.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by layer8 »

ethagnawl wrote: post #353
troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

I wonder what happens if I don't accept the new T&C? I've been successfully dismissing an updated T&C prompt in a popular group messaging application for years -- I lack the time and legal acumen to process it -- without issue. Also, for others who want to opt-out, the toggle is in the T&C modal itself.

The new privacy policy automatically becomes effective on September 28, if you don’t already agree to it before. Anthropic states that “After September 28, you’ll need to make your selection on the model training setting in order to continue using Claude.”

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by soiltype »

episteme wrote: post #38
troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

What will you use instead? I’m finding Claude the best experience since ChatGPT 5 is so slow and not any better answers than 4.

Since I don't use LLMs to directly code for me, I'm going to (mis?)place my trust in Kagi assistant entirely for the time being. It claims not to associate prompts with individual accounts. Small friction of keeping a browser tab open is worth it for me for now.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by lacoolj »

There are dark patterns in UI, and then there's this terms and conditions popup that also contains the checkbox to disable

Having "Accept" right under that makes it very unclear what you're accepting and enabling/disabling at the same time.

For those without an account or just want to see this: https://imgur.com/a/jbhzbnB

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by 12ian34 »

ljosifov wrote: post #400
12ian34 wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not remotely worried about leaks, hacks, or sinister usage of your data?

If they leaked bank accounts numbers, or private keys - I would be worried. That has not happened in the past. About myself personally - my Name Surname is googleable, I'm on the open electoral register, so my address is not a secret, my company information is also open in the companies register, I have a a personal website I have put up willingly and share information about myself there. Training models on my data d…

So you are projecting sociopathy on those that choose to keep their lives more private than you? Like you said, basic personal details are essentially public knowledge anyway. Where do you draw the line personally on what should be private?

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by ezfe »

SoftTalker wrote: post #314
ezfe wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This change didn't grant access to your old chats and can be opted out. Good job you overreacted without reading.

For now. Once this settles in they will change the terms again, with no opt-out option.

It must be so tiring worrying about pointless future things that aren't happening yet.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by Gud »

ljosifov wrote: post #350

Excellent. What were they waiting for up to now?? I thought they already trained on my data. I assume they train, even hope that they train, even when they say they don't. People that want to be data privacy maximalists - fine, don't use their data. But there are people out there (myself) that are on the opposite end of the spectrum, and we are mostly ignored by the companies. Companies just assume people only ever w…

Have you considered the drawbacks of sharing your data to the most unscrupulous people on this planet?

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by cowboylowrez »

aurareturn wrote: post #2

Just opened Claude app on Mac and saw a popup asking me if it's ok to train on my chats. It's on by default. Unchecked it. I think Claude saw that OpenAI was reaping too much benefit from this so they decided to do it too.

I hope they didn't vibe code the popup, that could be bad if it didn't actually work.
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