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Nvidia won, we all lost

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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Thankfully, RTS is healthy again! (To your point about cycles)

What RTS games are you playing now, please?

BAR

https://www.beyondallreason.info/

But... While bar is good, very good. It is also very hard to compete with, so I see it sort of killing any funding for good commercial RTS's for the next few years.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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This really makes no sense: > This in turn sparked rumors about NVIDIA purposefully keeping stock low to make it look like the cards are in high demand to drive prices. And sure enough, on secondary markets, the cards go way above MSRP Nvidia doesn't earn more money when cards are sold above MSRP, but they get almost all the hate for it. Why would they set themselves up for that? Scalpers are a retail wide problem. A…

> Nvidia doesn't earn more money when cards are sold above MSRP How would we know if they were?

Theoretically they'd need to make a public filing about their revenue and disclose this income stream. More to your point, I think it's pretty easy to obscure this under something else. My understanding is Microsoft has somehow always avoided disclosing the actual revenue from the Xbox for example.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Jenson has managed to kneel into every market boom in a reasonable amount of time with his GPUs and tech (hardware and software). No doubt he will be there when the next boom kicks off too.

Microsoft fails consistently ... even when offered a lead on the plate... it fails, but these failures are eventually corrected for by the momentum of its massive business units.

Apple is just very very late... but this failure can be eventually corrected for by its unbeatable astroturfing units.

Perhaps AMD are too small keep up everywhere it should. But compared to the rest, AMD is a fast follower. Why Intel is where it is is a mystery to me but i'm quite happy about its demise and failures :D

Being angry about NVIDIA is not giving enough credit to NVIDIA for being on-time and even leading the charge in the first place.

Everyone should remember that NVIDIA also leads into the markets that it dominates.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

I just learned MTG this year because my 11 year old son got into it. I like it. How did it “go to shit”?

If you don't care about competitive balance or the "identity" of magic it probably didn't.

Long answer: the introduction of non-magic sets like SpongeBob SquarePants, Deadpool, or Assassin's Creed are seen as tasteless money grabs that dilute the quality and theme of magic even further, but fans of those things will scoop them up.

The competitive scene has been pretty rough, but I haven't played constructed formats in a while so I'm not as keyed into this. I just know that there have been lots of cards released recently that have had to be banned for how powerful they were.

Personally, I love the game, but I hate the business model. It's ripe for abuse and people treat cards like stocks to invest in.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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> AMD GPUs aren't good enough. Software. AMD has traditionally been really bad at their drivers. (They also missed the AI train and are trying to catch up). I use Linux and have learned not to touch AMD GPUs (and to a lesser extent CPUs due to chipset quality/support) a long time ago. Even if they are better now, (I feel) Intel integrated (if no special GPU perf needed) or NVidia are less risky choices.

> I use Linux and have learned not to touch AMD GPUs The situation completely changed with the introduction of the AMDGPU drivers integrated into the kernel. This was like 10 years ago. Before then the AMD driver situation on Linux was atrocious. The open source drivers performed so bad you'd get better performance out of Intel integrated graphics than an expensive AMD GPU, and their closed source drivers were so poo…

I use the amdgpu driver and my luck has not been as good as yours. Can't sleep my PC without having it wake up to fill my logs with spam [0] and eventually crash.

Then there is the (in)famous AMD reset bug that makes AMD a real headache to use with GPU passthrough. The card can't be properly reset when the VM shuts down so you have to reboot the PC to start the VM a second time. There are workarounds but they only work on some cards & scenarios [1] [2]. This problem goes back to around the 390 series cards so they've had forever to properly implement reset according to the pci spec but haven't. nvidia handles this flawlessly

[0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3911

[1] https://github.com/gnif/vendor-reset

[2] https://github.com/inga-lovinde/RadeonResetBugFix

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

I am not a gamer and don't why AMD GPUs aren't good enough. It's weird since both Xbox and PlayStation are using AMD GPUs. I guess there games that you can only play on PC with Nvidia graphics. That begs the question why someone create a game and ignore large console market.

AMD GPU's are fine, but nvidia's marketing (overt and covert / word-of-mouth) is better. "RTX On" is a meme where people get convinced the graphics are over 9000x "better"; it's a meaningless marketing expression but a naive generation of fairly new PC gamers are eating it up.

And... they don't need to. Most of the most played video games on PC are all years old [0]. They're online multiplayer games that are optimized for average spec computers (and mobile) to capture as big a chunk of the potential market as possible.

It's flexing for clout, nothing else to it. And yet, I can't say it's anything new, people have been bragging, boasting and comparing their graphics cards for decades.

[0] https://activeplayer.io/top-15-most-popular-pc-games-of-2022...

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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My hesitation is around high end settings, can Proton run 240hz on 1440p and high settings? I'm switching anyway soon and might just have a separate machine for gaming but I'd rather it be Linux. SteamOS looks promising if they release for PC.

Proton has often better performance than gaming under Windows - partly because Linux is faster - so sure it can run those settings.

Interesting, thanks.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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High end GPU has over the last 5 years slowly turning from an enthusiast product into a luxury product. 5 or maybe 10 years ago, high-end GPU are needed to run games at reasonably eye candy setting. In 2025, $500 mid-range GPUs are more than enough. Folks all over can barely tell between High and Ultra settings, DLSS vs FSR, or DLSS FG and Lossless Scaling. There's just no point to compete at $500 price point any mor…

Absolutely right, only AAA games get to showcase the true power of GPUs.

For cheaper guys like me, I'll just give my son indie and low graphic games which he enjoys

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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I don't see how this is connected to what you said before.

My point is that GPU factories are big static targets with sensitive supply chains and thus have no strategic importance in being so easy to distrupt.

So are airplane and car factories. I already explained all of this, what keeps the supply chain together, and what their strategic value is.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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This is wrong. For 14 years the recommendation on Linux is: * Purchase always AMD. * Purchase never Nvidia. * Intel is also okay. Because the AMD drivers are good and open-source. And AMD cares about bug reports. The one from Nvidia can and will create issues because they’re closed-source and avoided for years to support Wayland. Now Nvidia published source-code and refuses to merge it into Linux and Mesa facepalm Wh…

The AMD drivers are open source, but they definitely are not good. Have a look at the Fedora discussion forums (for example https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-does-not-boot-... ) to see what happens about each month. I have no NVIDIA hardware, but I understand that the drivers are even worse than AMD's. Intel seems to be, at the moment, the least worse compromise between performance and stability,

Although you get to set your own standards "A bug was discovered after upgrading software" isn't very illuminating vis a vis quality. That does happen from time to time in most software.

In my experience an AMD card on linux is a great experience unless you want to do something AI related, in which case there will be random kernel panics (which, in all fairness, may one day go away - then I'll be back on AMD cards because their software support on Linux was otherwise much better than Nvidia's). There might be some kernel upgrades that should be skipped, but using an older kernel is no problem.

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