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Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by Attrecomet »

matsemann wrote: post #189
chrismorgan wrote: post #100

> Like, just to calibrate here: you know how some code editors will automatically fill in a right bracket or quote when you type a left one? You type " and the result is "|"? Yeah, that drives me up the wall. It saves no time whatsoever, and it’s wrong often enough that I waste time having to correct for it. I have not yet figured out why anyone would choose this behaviour in a text editor. You have to press somethin…

> and it’s wrong often enough How is it ever wrong, though? If I insert a (, and then a {, and the editor appends so that it's ({}), that's always ?correct. Can it ever not be. Maybe because on a Norwegian keyboard { is a bit awkward, but I like it. Then even if we're 5 levels deep with useEffect(() => {(({[{[ I can just press ctrl+shift+enter and it just magically finishes up everything and put my caret at the corre…

> can just press ctrl+shift+enter and it just magically finishes up everything and put my caret at the correct place, instead of me trying to write ]}]})) in the correct order.

I think here you are talking about a different thing -- completion of already started parentheses/"/whatever with content in-between, not the pre-application of paired braces or quotation marks, as the author did, no?

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by sfn42 »

zwnow wrote: post #396
sfn42 wrote: post #382

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If you live in a dead town with no opportunities then you either make your own opportunities or you move to a place with opportunities. If you just sit on your hands complaining about the lack of opportunities then you won't get any sympathy from me. People aren't entitled to live wherever they want, humanity's entire thing is adaptability. So adapt. Life is what you make it.

Humans are entitled to live wherever they want. Capitalists destroying rural regions with false promises (prosperous jobs) is a thing since the industrialization. Should all people move to overrun big cities? Small once established markets are getting destroyed by big discounters or stuff like Amazon. Also adapting is and never was a thing for most people. I dont know where you got that from but this isn't the wild w…

There's plenty of rural areas with plenty of opportunities. Cities are not the only option. If I lived in a dead mining town I'd move elsewhere. You can blame corporations or whatever you want, doesn't matter whose fault it is. Complaining and blaming doesn't solve anything. Finding solutions does. Stop complaining, start finding solutions. I grew up in a beautiful rural place. I'd like to live there, but what I like even more is not having to drive for over an hour to work every day. So I moved. I also went to university in my late 20s and some of my peers were in their 40s and 50s.

People adapt to all kinds of stuff all the time. Saying adapting isn't a thing for most people is ridiculous. Of course it's a thing. It's what you do when your current situation isn't working. You adapt.

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by alittlebee »

thombles wrote: post #113

Speaking as a grump who recently chilled out, put reservations on hold and gave Claude a crack... it turns out that the anti-AI crowd (which still includes me in many regards) gets a lot wrong about the experience of using it, as demonstrated in TFA. You don't get reams of wishy-washy code unless you ask for it. If you're an experienced developer who Knows What They Want then you can wield it like a scalpel. None of…

I like this perspective, it’s not a replacement for thinking, it’s a replacement for typing what has already been typed countless times.

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by Attrecomet »

zpeti wrote: post #132
dalemhurley wrote: post #111

> "live in some futuristic utopia like the EU where banks consider "send money to people" to be core functionality. But here in the good ol' U S of A, where material progress requires significant amounts of kicking and screaming, you had PayPal." I remember when PayPal came to Australia, I was so confused by it as I could just send money via internet banking. Then they tried to lobby the government to make our bankin…

I don't get this sentence. It's pretty damn hard sending money in the EU too. We only had SWIFT and CHAPS too like in the USA. The EU isn't some banking haven with ultrafast transfers. If they are talking about the new legislation about fast transfers (SEPA), that came 1 decade after paypal.

Even before SEPA, we didn't use checks in the EU -- or at least in Germany -- because bank transfers were a thing and just worked.

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by yieldcrv »

EraYaN wrote: post #276
yieldcrv wrote: post #258

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unfortunately the same thread has been had for any tangentially crypto thread on HN for the last decade and a half, so it just doesn’t feel like my prerogative to answer such a lazy and abstract question yes, that means we are at an impasse. use the search, ask an LLM, if even that is too much initiative for a quite outdated skeptic to take even now then I can’t help you there are hundreds of billions, maybe trillion…

Most of the financial services and systems are all still on very boring old databases (hell quite some cobol still touches a ton of it). Since well they don't need to get hype funding for their Series A or whatever. Databases are just pretty good and processing data efficiently. It's a tiny tiny part that actually runs on some blockchain.

there are hundreds of billions, maybe trillions in volume going through financial services on blockchains

and yes that is a tiny fraction of all financial services volume at all, or even involving crypto assets.

I was referring to the traffic onchain as that’s what’s interesting

permissionless liquidity providing in unincorporated partnerships is still novel and unique to those platforms and highly lucrative. on assets that dont need permission to be listed anywhere.

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by mystified5016 »

raincole wrote: post #44
gyomu wrote: post #10

Broadly agreed with all the points outlined in there. But for me the biggest issue with all this — that I don't see covered in here, or maybe just a little bit in passing — is what all of this is doing to beginners, and the learning pipeline. > There are people I once respected who, apparently, don’t actually enjoy doing the thing. They would like to describe what they want and receive Whatever — some beige sludge th…

People will write lengthy and convoluted explanation on why LLM isn't like calculator or microwave oven or other technology before. (Like OP's article) But it really is. Humans have been looking for easier and lazier ways to do things since the dawn of civilization. Tech never ever prevents people who really want to hone their skills from doing so. World record of 100m sprint kept improving even since car was invente…

AI is the equivalent of going from stone abacuses straight to smartphones, skipping all computer and calculator development in between.

We go from a society where only a very few people are literate in math to one where everyone has a literal supercomputer at all times. What do you think that would do for math literacy in a society? Would everyone suddenly went to learn algebra and calculus? Or would the vast majority of people use the easy machine and accept its answers without question or understanding?

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by yieldcrv »

greyface- wrote: post #342
yieldcrv wrote: post #262

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Evangelists can be ignored if you want, not all promoted use cases are relevant Its all about blockspace and the commodity that pays for the blockspace That was true when bitcoin was 2 cents and its true when bitcoin is $109,000 and 2 cents I mean, are you enjoying your socioeconomic status? the chronology was very clear to some and they were right. It wasn’t luck, it wasn’t a really binary proposition. you can read…

> Its all about blockspace > That was true when bitcoin was 2 cents I largely agree with you, but to nitpick: when bitcoin was 2 cents, blockspace was free, and miners regularly accepted zero-fee transactions into blocks. Today, you're not getting a transaction into a block without paying at least a couple hundred sats. Your statement is true today, but it wasn't like this until April-May 2012 when Satoshi Dice start…

yes, blocks are and were periodically empty

if you expected applications to be deployed that would take up block space when used, and were going to build those applications yourself, then it was still rational

in 2012 people were describing smart contracts, joint custody accounts to secure assets better, and many other applications that are commonplace and have their own critique and discussion now

its like seeing an island full of resources and realizing that the bridges and ferry routes haven't been built yet. that

1) you can get to that island yourself before everyone else

2) you can also build the bridge and put up a toll booth

3) other bridges will be built

4) and other people can also come to the island early at great difficulty too

the same play is still true on other blockchains, and sometimes back again on bitcoin

I’ve done the trade many times over the past 15 years

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by alittlebee »

latexr wrote: post #393
simonw wrote: post #381

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For your benefit I will make two minor edits to things I have said. > Looks like I was the inspiration for this post then I replace that with: > Looks like I was the inspiration for finishing this post then And this: > Quitting programming as a career right now because of LLMs would be like quitting carpentry as a career thanks to the invention of the table saw. I can rephrase as: > Quitting programming as a career r…

> For your benefit If that’s your true impetus, please don’t bother. There’s nothing which benefits me about your words being clearer and less open to misinterpretation. You are, of course, completely welcome to disagree with and ignore my suggestions. > thanks to the introduction of the table saw. That makes absolutely no difference at all. And it doesn’t matter anymore either, the harm to your point is already done…

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Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

sfn42 wrote: post #382
AnonymousPlanet wrote: post #197

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We're talking about places that even after decades haven't recovered. What do you think is happening there right now? There's a common fallacy that tries to argue that it'll be alright over time, no matter what happens. Given enough time, you can also say that about atomic wars. But that won't help the generations that are affected.

If you live in a dead town with no opportunities then you either make your own opportunities or you move to a place with opportunities. If you just sit on your hands complaining about the lack of opportunities then you won't get any sympathy from me. People aren't entitled to live wherever they want, humanity's entire thing is adaptability. So adapt. Life is what you make it.

When I say 'place' that includes entire countries. Adapting then depends on the kindness of strangers towards foreign refugees.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the near future something like "Adapt. Life is what you make it" could be read in big bold letters above the entrance of a place like Alligator Alcatraz.

Re: The Rise of Whatever

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Post by ako »

bruce511 wrote: post #376
ako wrote: post #290

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In live in europe, so understand some of it, part of my family comes from eastern europe, so have also seen that form of communism in the past. Living on welfare in the Netherlands is not a good life, and definitely not something we should accept for the majority of the people. Being retired on only a state pension is a bad life, you need to save for retirement to have a good life. And saving takes time, that's why y…

I am not saying that the reality exists. I'm saying that the blind acceptance of the status quo does not allow for that status to be questioned. You see the welfare amounts, or retirement amounts as limited. Well then, what would it take to increase them? How could a society increase productivity such that more could be produced in less time? Are some of our mindsets preventing us from seeing alternatives? Given that…

I hope you're right, but considering human nature, it's not something i would bet my money on. It's not how humans are wired.
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