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>The payoff is very obviously genocide and the reestablishment of chattel slavery The Trump administration is deplorable, corrupt, grotesque and ridiculous in so many ways, not to mention dangerous, but seriously, get off it with these kinds of declarations. Such hyperbolic nonsense just shuts down genuine possible inroads into protesting against this government's uglier things and paints those who oppose it as hyste…

I think downvoting comments like the parent exacerbate political polarization. Definitions of words such as "genocide" and "slavery" indeed is problematic and arguing like the parent doesn't imply being a Trump apologist. Remember when Biden called the war in Ukraine a genocide? Didn't you think it watered down the word? If that's a genocide, does it mean we need a new word for holocaust-style genocides? Do we need t…

It's worth noting that their policies with regard to global health initiatives are currently killing 88-people every hour, on average. Mostly children.

https://www.impactcounter.com/dashboard?view=table&sort=titl...'

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I think downvoting comments like the parent exacerbate political polarization. Definitions of words such as "genocide" and "slavery" indeed is problematic and arguing like the parent doesn't imply being a Trump apologist. Remember when Biden called the war in Ukraine a genocide? Didn't you think it watered down the word? If that's a genocide, does it mean we need a new word for holocaust-style genocides? Do we need t…

It's worth noting that their policies with regard to global health initiatives are currently killing 88-people every hour, on average. Mostly children. https://www.impactcounter.com/dashboard?view=table&sort=titl... '

Wow, talk about a completely loaded and dishonest definition of cause and effect. I personally think that the U.S should fund these programs for health overseas, but saying that it no longer funding some of them is killing 88 people per hour is completely off base. The diseases these programs addressed are what kills 88 people per hour, not some U.S policy. Since the U.S doesn't have a legal obligation to fund such programs, you claiming them as responsible is like saying that because you don't donate X money per month to some anti-malaria charity (for example), you're killing some group of children that would have had their malaria treated in those months by your specific donation.

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NOAA released their budget estimate for FY 2026. Someone in our org ran it by copilot to summarize the impacts: * NOAA eliminates most climate, weather, and ocean labs and grants, causing major layoffs and loss of research capacity. * National climate research infrastructure is lost, with staff reductions. * Regional climate services, adaptation, and heat health programs end. * All climate research grants are cut. *…

Speed-running global warming with our eyes closed. Fun.

Right when warming has accelerated dramatically, too, such that we will see more warming in the next 10 years than we have in the last 40.

Those cuts couldn’t have come at a better time. /s

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When you search for a list of superpowers? I mean did you not simply include the word countries? Do you have a good authoritative source that lists the superpower countries that does not include Russia?

> When you search for a list of superpowers? I mean did you not simply include the word countries? Sure, but also in writing this reply, "cia superpower list" to see if they had anything "authoritative" got me CIA's paranormal research: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000... > Do you have a good authoritative source that lists the superpower countries that does not include Russia? In most cas…

You are proving my point…

If you can’t find an authoritative source of who is a superpower then how can you confidently claim who isn’t?

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>It's not like other systems have a better track record on environmental protection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea Socialism is the firm hand keeping capitalism at bay. Environmental laws, labor laws and the abolition of child labor, the 8 hour workday, weekends, minimum wage and overtime, disability rights and social welfare (such as it exists in the US) are all due to socialist activism in spite of the fre…

Well great let's have more of that without losing private property or instituting central planning.

While it is a view that seems to piss off most, I am becoming convinced capitalism and socialism are both equally doomed paths if taken to their unchecked extremes.

An endless game of tug-of-war between the two is the best we can do, and right now it is pulled way way too far in the capitalist direction and needs to be yanked back hard.

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I just feel extremely sad about the mass quantity of events like this happening right now because they are all aggregate to huge negative effects but the average person knows nothing of it. It feels so unfixable.

It is fixable, but we are going to have to wait until the mid-terms to slow down the insanity, so in 3 years we can roll it back and start the cycle over again, as is tradition.

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Speed-running global warming with our eyes closed. Fun.

Right when warming has accelerated dramatically, too, such that we will see more warming in the next 10 years than we have in the last 40. Those cuts couldn’t have come at a better time. /s

Where do you see that warming has accelerated dramatically? NOAAs graphs don't show that.

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> Like making everything so relative That industries shift affiliation if it brings them money is not "relative", it's just something they show again and again, some more than others. I don't care about US politics right/left but as someone who worked in the oil industry I can guarantee you that the industry will shift its affiliation towards the side that makes it more money. Many industries do this, much of the lef…

You are correct. The fossil fuel industry will fund anyone who will take their money and push their greedy agenda. The difference in the republicans are normally the only ones who will stoop that low to sell out future generations for power today. That’s why no one cares about your false equivalency.

> That’s why no one cares about your false equivalency.

It's more because people especially in the US are so partisan and self-centered right now that anything that even remotely sounds like it doesn't fully match their views leads to brain shutdown and autopilot rage mode.

That's why it takes 3 very clear explanations for you to understand but still not quite (understanding takes effort and brainpower, but anyone can mash the trigger for free). That's why you can start by saying "you are right" and end with "but nobody cares because the 'publicans/libs". And that's why things are going the way they are over there.

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Right when warming has accelerated dramatically, too, such that we will see more warming in the next 10 years than we have in the last 40. Those cuts couldn’t have come at a better time. /s

Where do you see that warming has accelerated dramatically? NOAAs graphs don't show that.

> NOAAs graphs don't show that

Good one...

Luckily, there's more in the world than NOAA. If you just search 'global warming accelerating' on Google, there are plenty of sources. I can't seem to find the 'more in the next 10 than the previous 40' stat and 'dramatically' is obviously subjective, but it doesn't look great.

If you look at some predictions from people specializing in permafrost methane ejections, it looks pretty bad even.

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