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Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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The weirdest part of that merger was Unity paid $4.4billion for IronSource.

ironsource was the owner and runner of the largest sleazy game ad network, which was unity specific unity was dying for lack of revenue

The fact that they were struggling for revenue just made the massive spend seem even weirder to me, but I suppose it could make sense if they truly expected to somehow get >4.4 billion back from ad revenue eventually. They also bought Wētā FX for $1.6 billion around the same time and did basically nothing with it.[1]

[1] https://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/unity-software-with-a-com...

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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I can assure you that they do the same thing with flagship phones, especially carrier versions of the phones -- speaking from first hand experience. I have seen notifications from apps I have never heard of multiple times. That's what I have been thinking recently -- given that Samsung is quietly doing these shady things with my phone, and other annoyances like Samsung forcing Galaxy AI on me (try selecting some text…

> Samsung forcing Galaxy AI on me (try selecting some texts in a browser or webview) I did. No Galaxy AI.

Open an email from any email client and give it a try.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Having root access implies that you can do all sorts of things: change files, install new software, new kernel modules, etc. Locking this down makes the attack surface for malicious parties much smaller. Many exploits start in user-space and then obtain root access to install rootkits. Of course you lose freedom, but that is exactly what is needed, because some people just cannot help themselves from exploiting that…

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/authorization.png >Unless someone figures out a way where we can safely share computing power and connections to real-life services (e.g. banking, having an identity, communication in general), I think there is no real alternative. I think the opposite is true. We don't have adequate sandboxing of userspace on most desktop OSes. If your malware has access to the victim's home directory an…

I don't think these problems are opposing; both are real.

I totally agree that user space is not as much of a useful concept on a single-user device. Originally, it helped to shield users of the same system from each other. Most of this was based on file system authorization. This hasn't been extended to internet access in a very useful way.

However, even on single-user devices, having root access makes it easier to hide malicious processes. Granted that in modern operating systems it is already totally unclear what most processes are doing, so one can simply hide in plain sight.

I'm still not convinced we can get by without a lot of trusted computing stuff to have secure payments.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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post #14

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> "unremovable" > you can't completely remove it Maybe my English isn’t very good but that sounds like the definition of unremovable.

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Regardless of the point, this language is extremely unhelpful here, especially considering op tried with good intent to help people dealing with the issue.

And there are other analogies too, e.g with certain diseases being "functionally cured" vs "cured." Did the GP use the wrong word? Sure. But making that the sole focus of criticism misses the intent of the GP and the greater value of the whole comment, which instructs people on how to disable it so that it's functionally non-impactful.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Supermicro IPMI comes to mind. If it was compromised we would have known by now.

Not only is Supermicro headquartered in USA, but it's operations are in Taiwan, which they would very much like you to acknowledge is not the same as mainland China.

Memory sure is short around here.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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In favor of what? The Android ecosystem is pretty lousy. Which manufacturers allow you to easily migrate to a new phone (Samsung has Smart Switch) and have, let's say, 4+ years of security updates? Genuine question. In my case I also wanted an SD card slot so it was slim slim pickings indeed. (And still there are some misfits who insist that there is no such thing as progress!)

>Which manufacturers allow you to easily migrate to a new phone (Samsung has Smart Switch) and have, let's say, 4+ years of security updates? Pixel phones get 7 years of OS and security updates. Do you consider Pixel phones to allow you to easily migrate to a new phone? Disclosure: I work at Google, but not on Android or Pixel.

Pixel phones are available in very few regions, Samsung is available virtually anywhere.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Soooo... What do y'all recommend if I want to run a rooted Android phone? Seems like our options are becoming more and more limited each year. :-(

Pixel with self-built userdebug version of GrapheneOS. (It's quite easy, just modify one step of their published buiod instructions.)

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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The will of the masses is NEVER enacted. This is what bourgeois capitalism is. Oh you like phones? Well our phone companies require us to directly or indirectly create proxy wars in this region in order to acquire the raw materials necessary. This is the democracy of western nations: policy hidden behind capitalist interests that the people engage with through consumption. Its democracy for the rich not for the milli…

>Oh you like phones? Well our phone companies require us to directly or indirectly create proxy wars in this region in order to acquire the raw materials necessary. I think that is the will of the masses. I've got this fairphone in my pocket that has a replaceable cobalt-free battery and a replaceable OS for a reasonable price. But people by-and-large don't want fairphones, they want iphones. The third worlders fight…

> The third worlders fighting over cobalt don't want peace, they want wealth for themselves.

They are enabled into fighting by big, huge interests. They ship them weapons and rationales.

Who are the customers in the end? Western nations. They create the abject poverty, they use poor governments to exploit and enslave their own people. There is no "poverty" in the world only exploitation. All poverty is fabricated and sustained.

Why is it that Mali is one of the poorest nations on earth but is also one of the top 10 exporters of gold? How does that work?

Capitalism is not voluntarism. That is the myth of philosophical liberalism.

To say that someone who owns as much wealth as a few million people is equal to those same millions of persons who directly own nothing except credit(debt)? It's a myth.

Voluntarism would only be true if we were on equal economic standing. Therefore voluntarism implies that no one can be coerced or leveraged, its a moot and infantile viewpoint of social dynamics.

The "silent majority" has no real way to speak. You choose candidates based on talking points who can then REALLY do anything they please. That is called "trusting campaigns", not democracy.

In reality what happens in elections is that we are choosing a group of people to enact policies based on the market-demands of a society that cannot control its market/production. There is a huge disconnect. It's not a real influence WE have. It's an influence that is given.

IE. The majority of people dont want to use plastic materials for anything related to their consumption. But plastic is cheap and easy to produce. I'm sure that if given a choice people would rather their society work a bit more, spend a bit more of human-energy if it means we dont have nuts full of microplastics.

It is how we produce that determines what choices we have, and how we produce is determined by market dynamics which are reduced to sustainability of production and profits. It is profits that determines production, not consumers' will.

So tell me: if we dont directly control the options we have, but you say we are making a choice, what is that?

There is another word for that. Coercion, manipulation.

I dont want child soldiers killing for control over resources or kids mining for 12 hours a day, I want a good, cheap phone. It is not the same.

Is there really no other way? I would sure as hell try to have it any other way.

Whoever conflates these is doing so because they profit off of it, not because its the only way.

In capitalism the heads of production and their profits determine the directions of our societies.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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The truth is far outside the Overton window. Yes, privacy is a question of civil defense in the drone age. But the existing crop of states will never acknowledge that; their structure and institutions presume precisely the kind of mass databases of PII that create this vulnerability, as well as institutional transparency for public accountability. This makes them structurally vulnerable to insurgencies that expropria…

This has been going on in Russia on massive scale. For bribes officials sells anything including highly sensitive databases. Those were used to uncover various Kremlin-run assassins targeting oppositions. Then Ukrainian special services used those to target high-ranking Russian military officers. Russia tried to crack down on that but it just increased the database price tag.

If Putin didn't want bribery to go rampant he would set the example, and force other top leaders to do the same, but instead he flaunts his properties, yats, women that he enjoys; but it's probably a price too high for him to pay. I bet Xi Ping enjoys similar privileges but in much more private manner.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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I've given up on smartphones. They're all unacceptably bad and for the most part take value out of your life rather than adding it. I own a $50 Android tablet just for the required certificates to run DUO for work and other than that just use a UMPC with a modem card and VOIP for everything.

There is a lot of bad, but GPS maps (Google Maps for business reviews and public transport info and OSMAnd for hiking tracks) is extremely valuable to someone who travels a lot.

And as much as I hate sending all the data to Google, their Translate app is indispensable for communicating in non-English speaking countries.

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