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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by kjkjadksj »

streptomycin wrote: post #376
frob wrote: post #11

The NSF funded my graduate research. It feels like someone is going through my past and burning all of the ladders that helped me grow and succeed.

I could never get beyond "honorable mention" for the NSF GRFP. I found the diversity part of it most difficult to write. Like honestly my research had nothing to do with diversity and I'm not an underrepresented minority myself. But that was a major part of how the application was scored, so you had to come up with some bullshit and hope for the best. And that was like 15 years ago, I hear things have only gotten mor…

Grfp has always been prestigious. However many more professors themselves are funded from nsf grants they use to then pay for their grad students.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by zmgsabst »

ponow wrote: post #359
ourmandave wrote: post #35

Last week, staff were briefed on a new process for vetting grant proposals that are found to be out of step with a presidential directive on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI),... In the new structure, even if a revised proposal gets the green light from a division director, a new body whose membership has not been determined will take a fresh look to ensure it conforms to the agency’s new standard for making awa…

These are welcome changes, as the practice of DEI (not it's idealization) is actively discriminatory and intolerant of dissenting views. Let competence be the only metric.

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by naasking »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #372
coliveira wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forget that Trump's enemies are all married to this narrative of Trump as Russian asset. So I'm very clear that he will try to destroy as many as these people as possible during his second term. This includes all the people pushing support for Ukraine, which is seen as a Biden project. It has nothing to do with helping Russia and more with his personal preservation in power.

> Trump's enemies Do you mean political rivals or do you have actual evidence the Democratic party is trying to kill him.

You don't have to be murderous to be an enemy. They clearly want to throw him in prison, so isn't that enough for someone in that position to call them enemies?

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by imchillyb »

netsharc wrote: post #313
jjtheblunt wrote: post #300

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How is it possible that you still see the chance that the actions are being done in "good faith"? In my opinion you'd have to construct a lot of "visual barriers" in order to not see the "full picture" of what kind of people the current regime is made of, and what their motivations would be... You'd have to be looking away, because looking at it would mean admitting you've been wrong.

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by moralestapia »

zhivota wrote: post #295

I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by alabastervlog »

daedrdev wrote: post #391
alabastervlog wrote: post #296

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You have fallen for propaganda aimed at getting people to not give a shit when republicans try to end Social Security. The money didn't "get spent", it's invested . If that counts as "got spent" then your savings account also "got spent" (funding loans) and your retirement accounts also "got spent" (buying bonds, treasuries, securities) so you can go ahead and sign those over to me since they're empty anyway—right? I…

The money is lent to the federal government via Treasuries. As the surplus is spent, it will directly decrease the funding for the government deficit, increasing the cost for the government to service its debt. The original poster is wrong since the surplus is real, but spending down this surplus will still cost the government a lot. And even if it didn't, Social Security will burn its entire reserve in 10 years and…

It's true to the same extent that redeeming any treasuries "contributes to the deficit". The only way that is meaningfully true in the context of "how do we reduce the deficit?" is if we're willing to not repay our debt and if that's the case, the entire issue is moot.

Framing it that was is just priming us for the government to actually empty the account by defaulting on that debt, i.e. rendering the assets owned by the fund worthless.

It's true in the same way that it's true to say that cars can fly, which is to say, that it's way more true to say that no, they cannot, even if yes, sure, the other thing is "true".

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by shnock »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #372
coliveira wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forget that Trump's enemies are all married to this narrative of Trump as Russian asset. So I'm very clear that he will try to destroy as many as these people as possible during his second term. This includes all the people pushing support for Ukraine, which is seen as a Biden project. It has nothing to do with helping Russia and more with his personal preservation in power.

> Trump's enemies Do you mean political rivals or do you have actual evidence the Democratic party is trying to kill him.

The definition of "enemy" is not limited to "people that are trying to kill you"

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by vachina »

biofox wrote: post #112
chuckadams wrote: post #84

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These are the same people that zeroed out research funding on transgenic mice because they thought it was the same as transgendered.

This has been repeated in several places, but it's not entirely accurate. Having looked through a partial list of the studies that were cancelled, many of them seemed to be looking at the effects of sex hormones (e.g. on memory or wound healing). These could involve transgenic mice that overexpress hormones or receptors, but also injection of exogenous hormones. Still a ridiculous reason to defund medical research.

> partial list of the studies that were cancelled

https://airtable.com/appGKlSVeXniQZkFC/shrFxbl1YTqb3AyOO

Honestly, having seen the list, I reserve judgement.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by zmgsabst »

pyrophane wrote: post #103
LightBug1 wrote: post #6

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I'm an American. I struggle almost every day with what feels like a betrayal of our republic by so many voters and leaders, and none of the explanations for why it has happened, even when taken together, are wholly satisfying. It has shaken my faith in democracy, but at the same time, there's nothing else, so I have no choice but to try to fight for it in what ways I can.

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by ChrisLTD »

moralestapia wrote: post #405
zhivota wrote: post #295

I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

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If there is a good reason, the administration is welcome to communicate to the public. This is reportedly a democracy, after all.
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